Datsun1500 wrote: Hasn't a Cadillac wagon been around for a few years?
Not to get too wrapped up in semantics, but I'm going to call that an SUV-crossover-type thing. Wow, it looks jacked-up in that photo, too.
Datsun1500 wrote: Hasn't a Cadillac wagon been around for a few years?
Not to get too wrapped up in semantics, but I'm going to call that an SUV-crossover-type thing. Wow, it looks jacked-up in that photo, too.
I predict slow sales due to price but then with the need for sales volumes to achieve economies of scale these wagons will be forced (dumped) onto the rental car world. Most of those going to rental will be low optioned versions.
Used low optioned versions will depreciate quickly. Loaded versions will have their values pulled down as well from the rentals but will remain slightly higher.
I will search them on the used market but finding one with the options you really want will be next to impossible.
Due to the slow sales, GM will contiue to turn its back on wagons claiming that the US buyer does not like them.
jrw1621 wrote: Due to the slow sales, GM will contiue to turn its back on wagons claiming that the US buyer does not like them.
Just like we won't buy diesels. If there was a TDI manual wagon available in the <$20k range I'd be driving a new car instead of an 89 Volvo. And I'd happily pay the note on a new diesel Rubicon. Maybe I should just move to Europe and be done with it
Europe got/gets? a wagon version of the Chrysler 300, with a diesel to boot (tho, in reality, it's just a Magnum with a 300 front clip). Cadillac doesn't seem to have plans to put a diesel in the CTS when sold in Europe...but if the sales are there, who knows? However, don't look for a diesel in the U.S.
On this very forum a while back I called the CTS Wagon "the answer to an automotive question nobody asked" and I stand behind that. It's not that great looking, it sounds pretty poorly laid out inside from a load floor and general packaging perspective, and it takes away time and engineering and money that would have been better spent bringing the CTS Coupe to market.
Who is this going to lure into driving home with one? No dyed in the wool Subaru fanatic would get one, or Saab, or really even Audi or BMW. I've been wrong before but I'm calling this a painful flop for a company that needs none at this time.
What is the CTS's competition? Volvo wagon? Charger?
The one Datsun1500 put up looks like that goofy Mopar crossover whatever thingie Pacifica. Not a van, not a car, not a wagon, not tall enough to be a mini van.
For the money I would plunk down on a CTS, I could do better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVVHaNjP0oc
These are all sub $40k offerings:
Audi A4 Avant BMW 328i Sports Wagon
These are $50k offerings:
Audi A6 Avant Mercedes E350 4Matic Wagon
GM missed the mark sending you a fully loaded car, according to the website they start at $38k:
Wow, that version of the Buick looks very respectable!
This coming from a former Volvo 850 wagon owner.
jrw1621 wrote: Wow, that version of the Buick looks very respectable! This coming from a former Volvo 850 wagon owner.
5 minute MSPaint 'chop.
Supercharged. Station wagon. Best motor GM makes (outside of the ls9). Why would ANYONE dislike this?
mndsm wrote: Supercharged. Station wagon. Best motor GM makes (outside of the ls9). Why would ANYONE dislike this?
Unfortunately, there is a stigma attached to wagons...which places them below the mini-van.
Wagons rule.
John Brown wrote: Make THIS: (Buick Regal wagon 'shoop) from THIS: (Buick Regal)
It's possible. C&D says that Buick might (emphasized so you don't get your hopes up) bring over the H/B and/or wagon and may even put a diesel in it to compete with the VW Jetta TDI wagon:
http://blog.caranddriver.com/more-regalia-buick-plans-to-bring-us-more-options/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+caranddriver/blog+%28Car+and+Driver+Blog%29&utm_content=Google+Reader
GM's already testing Buick-badged Opel Insignia Estates here in the US:
http://www.caranddriver.com/news/spied/10q2/2012_buick_regal_wagon-spied/gallery
Ah, pictures of the Opel version.
That could compete with the Toyota Venza.
Note the interesting lines though. It is a lot of rear overhang and there is still a lot of car after the d-pillar including that wrap around rear window.
Note the tail lights inside the cargo area. I guess this is so the car will still be legal if driven with the hatch open.
JFX001 wrote:mndsm wrote: Supercharged. Station wagon. Best motor GM makes (outside of the ls9). Why would ANYONE dislike this?Unfortunately, there is a stigma attached to wagons...which places them below the mini-van. Wagons rule.
And that is part of what makes them awesome. Wagons rule, and rule even harder when you smoke some goober in some sort of whatever that they think is fast.
Custom. Cadillac has never made a wagon. Well, at least as long as their engines have had over head valves.
petegossett wrote: You know, the more I think about it, what I *really* want is a CTS-V flower car.
Don't they call those 'utes in Aussie land?
/me dreams of a g8 based CTS-V el camino... OMG.
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