Calling Jeepers, Jeep Experts to the white phone please

Whats a good value for a '93 YJ Wrangler, 285 I6, manual, 4-link front and rear with "bulletproof" axles and 36's, full cage, hard top, soft top, winch?

Asking because another toy project is exactly what I need right now.

4 link?  What axles how well was the fab work done?

That 258 is an ok engine. But will still have a carb so reliable but low power.  I'd swap it for a 4.0. 

Fueled by Caffeine said:

4 link?  What axles how well was the fab work done?

That 258 is an ok engine. But will still have a carb so reliable but low power.  I'd swap it for a 4.0. 

means coilovers or coil springs instead of leafs like factory.  Axles matter, I would say 7k-10k depending on condition

Weird somebody would swap in the 4.2 in my eyes. Hopefully it's at least an AX15 behind it.

Any photos?

MrChaos said:

Fueled by Caffeine said:

4 link?  What axles how well was the fab work done?

That 258 is an ok engine. But will still have a carb so reliable but low power.  I'd swap it for a 4.0. 

means coilovers or coil springs instead of leafs like factory.  Axles matter, I would say 7k-10k depending on condition

yeah axles matter..  also body rust but also quality of the fab work.

4 link can mean well contrsucted and thought out to I got me a buzz box and some well pipe..

I learned the AX15 5th gear still doesn't like 33s.  To throw a number out there if it was put together decently $8-9k. Adjust up or down for quality of parts that come with / on it. My reference is building up a '95 YJ over the past few years.  My rust free example still had the rear frame ends trying to return to the earth so watch out for all the Jeep rust areas.

I couldn't put any price on it without more info and some photos.

I've seen people call D30/D35 and 10 Bolts "Bulletproofed"

Cooter said:

I couldn't put any price on it without more info and some photos.

I've seen people call D30/D35 and 10 Bolts "Bulletproofed"

Also metric dollars thrown at samurai axles that are bulletproof. 

Front ^^^

Rear ^^^

Diff ^^^

209k miles showing, unsure how many iterations of drivetrain have been under it.

I have more photos, if there's something you want to see.

looks like a d44/ford 9in combo out of a 70s ford truck or bronco

That's a 4.0 head and intake atleast, if it's a 258 it's had the newer efi put on it. About all I can tell you unfortunately. 

Daylan C (Forum Supporter) said:

That's a 4.0 head and intake atleast, if it's a 258 it's had the newer efi put on it. About all I can tell you unfortunately. 

I noticed that too. That looks a lot like a regular 4.0L. Although you can put a 258 crank in a 4.0L block. 

NickD said:

Daylan C (Forum Supporter) said:

That's a 4.0 head and intake atleast, if it's a 258 it's had the newer efi put on it. About all I can tell you unfortunately. 

I noticed that too. That looks a lot like a regular 4.0L. Although you can put a 258 crank in a 4.0L block. 

Isn't the result of that roughly 285 cu in?

I'd ask questions about the axles... If they're stock D44/9in, I'd say they're borderline with 36in tires - of course depending on driver and terrain. If they have upgraded shafts, they might be ok. Curious about lockers, gears, etc.

I'd pay $5k for that.

In reply to ProDarwin :

Close, yeah. A 4.7 stroker is 3.935x3.895 giving you 284.21CI or 4.657L

ProDarwin said:

NickD said:

Daylan C (Forum Supporter) said:

That's a 4.0 head and intake atleast, if it's a 258 it's had the newer efi put on it. About all I can tell you unfortunately. 

I noticed that too. That looks a lot like a regular 4.0L. Although you can put a 258 crank in a 4.0L block. 

Isn't the result of that roughly 285 cu in?

275ci, actually.

buzzboy said:

In reply to ProDarwin :

Close, yeah. A 4.7 stroker is 3.935x3.895 giving you 284.21CI or 4.657L

Yeah, I thought that might explain why it looks like a 4.0 but the Original post says 285 in it.

In reply to ProDarwin :

So I had 285 mixed up, paper on the dash says 258, badge on the back says 4.0. 

If I decide it isn't a horrible idea, I may talk to the guy and find out some more details. Right now I'm still doubtful that it makes sense as a replacement for my daily.

JohnInKansas said:

Right now I'm still doubtful that it makes sense as a replacement for my daily.

a lifted yj with 4links, 36's and lockers with just a 4.0 is not going to be daily firendly.

It's been a while since I was out of Jeep world.  But that seems a bit rough for a daily.  Good for a trail toy..but depends on how hard it was wheeled.. how is it going to handle at 50mph and beyond?

Looked over the ID markings a little closer. Appears to be a HO 4 liter with Dana 44 front with Warn manual lockers and 9-inch rear on 35s. Engine and axles have been opened up, judging by the use of RTV, so internals are a question mark.

I wouldn't be dailying it very far, under 20 miles a day, but it would need to be dead reliable. Fuel economy is an interesting variable as well.

What don't I know about 4 link/large tires/lifted at road speed? I would assume it would be big and squashy with steering that you point rather than aim. And whiny tire tread.

In reply to JohnInKansas :

My hunch is the Jeep's steering would make your bus feel like a sportscar. 

it might get double digit gas mileage. I assume since it was designed as a trail toy you will be chasing death wobble all the time.

I don't want to encroach on your thread, but may be selling my probably less capable jeep soon. You can PM me if you want more details.