NOHOME
NOHOME MegaDork
1/17/23 4:42 p.m.

I know that there is some kind of a CG formula to keep cars off their roof, but was wondering if a Cayene is eligible to run in the challenge? Cause, you know, "Porsche" eh?

Owner has a quote from the scrapyard and it is under challenge budget but, while a tad crusty, it does drive. 

 

Pete

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
1/17/23 4:51 p.m.

I'd love to see it at the event, but sadly the rules don't take badge into account. You'll need to meet the SCCA's static stability factor in order to run. That said, it might meet it without modifications--those are fairly wide cars.

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/17/23 5:00 p.m.

FYI - The air suspension ones can go pretty low, and with drop links can go even lower. I have seen many a Cayenne Turbo autocross with PCA.

NOHOME
NOHOME MegaDork
1/17/23 5:26 p.m.

In reply to Tom Suddard :

How do I do or even start to prove  that?  Is it as simple as a roof height to track ratio? Cause even though it might make it less safe, I can always cut whatever springs it has and drop it on the ground just to play.

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
1/17/23 5:55 p.m.

Prove...

The rule is to be wider (track) than height. 

I went to the internet for manufactures data on stock track and height numbers.  Then from those numbers, 2" wheel spacers helped to make it wider and shorter rubber helped to make it shorter which if I remember made me .7" shorter vs wide.  But, before the event I had to provide this documentation.

NOHOME
NOHOME MegaDork
1/17/23 6:34 p.m.

In reply to John Welsh :

I shall follow up on this then to see where I might be.

This thing does not need to return, so who needs suspension once I get there?

 

FYI my FMV is based on a quote from the scrapyard to the person who wants to get rid of the vehicle. I assume that if I can get that quote I am good to go? 

AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter)
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/17/23 6:44 p.m.
NOHOME said:

FYI my FMV is based on a quote from the scrapyard to the person who wants to get rid of the vehicle. I assume that if I can get that quote I am good to go? 

I'd accept that.

Tk8398
Tk8398 HalfDork
1/17/23 8:03 p.m.

There are pics around of a slammed pink one that appears to be RWD converted used as a drift/burnout beater.  I think it's doable one way or another.

MotorsportsGordon
MotorsportsGordon Dork
1/17/23 8:26 p.m.

I mean this won the challenge autocross

MyMiatas
MyMiatas Reader
1/17/23 9:24 p.m.

Doe this Porsche have a V8?  Sounds like a engine swap engine after the event if it does. Who wouldnt want a Miata with a Porsche engine in it??   :0D

NOHOME
NOHOME MegaDork
1/17/23 10:57 p.m.

In reply to MyMiatas :

Why yes it does. And it seems to drive just fine if you ignore some crusty bodywork.

Quick Googles and I find this:

Seems doable. Shorter tires and some spacers to widen it up. Worse case scenario I bash the top in with a sledge to get the last half inch of lowerness.

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/17/23 11:42 p.m.
MyMiatas said:

Doe this Porsche have a V8?  Sounds like a engine swap engine after the event if it does. Who wouldnt want a Miata with a Porsche engine in it??   :0D

The Cayenne S and GTS are. Here's some inspiration:

 

kevinatfms
kevinatfms HalfDork
1/18/23 7:42 a.m.
NOHOME said:

In reply to MyMiatas :

Why yes it does. And it seems to drive just fine if you ignore some crusty bodywork.

Quick Googles and I find this:

Seems doable. Shorter tires and some spacers to widen it up. Worse case scenario I bash the top in with a sledge to get the last half inch of lowerness.

Chop the top like the Rinspeed Chopster....

Concept Flashback - 2005 RINSPEED Chopster vs Porsche Cayenne Turbo S

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/18/23 7:54 a.m.
kevinatfms said:
NOHOME said:

In reply to MyMiatas :

Why yes it does. And it seems to drive just fine if you ignore some crusty bodywork.

Quick Googles and I find this:

Seems doable. Shorter tires and some spacers to widen it up. Worse case scenario I bash the top in with a sledge to get the last half inch of lowerness.

Chop the top like the Rinspeed Chopster....

Concept Flashback - 2005 RINSPEED Chopster vs Porsche Cayenne Turbo S

This sounds like a problem that can be solved with a sazall. Then re purpos the roof for fender flair's and aero parts. 

rslifkin
rslifkin UberDork
1/18/23 8:03 a.m.

Taking the average track, it looks like you'd only need to widen it 1.75" without any lowering.  So either a small suspension drop and/or shorter tires (keep in mind any steering geometry downsides from shorter tires) and some wheel spacers and you'll be there. 

Lof8 - Andy
Lof8 - Andy GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/18/23 8:57 a.m.

I like this thread. I'm in to see the eventual  solution. A guy at last weekends rallyx was running a $1500 Cayenne 

NOHOME
NOHOME MegaDork
1/18/23 9:06 a.m.

The trick will be to grab the car before the seller sends it to the yard.

 

An interesting option brought up by dean1484 is that since it need not come home, the roof can be deposited in a dumpster should the car make it to the challenge. That of course brings up the need for rollbar, so maybe not all that practical.

MrJoshua
MrJoshua UltimaDork
1/18/23 9:22 a.m.

 

AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter)
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/18/23 9:33 a.m.
MrJoshua said:

 

I was thinking blue tip wrench but I like the reversible nature of your solution

dyintorace
dyintorace GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
1/18/23 9:48 a.m.
NOHOME said:

The trick will be to grab the car before the seller sends it to the yard.

An interesting option brought up by dean1484 is that since it need not come home, the roof can be deposited in a dumpster should the car make it to the challenge. That of course brings up the need for rollbar, so maybe not all that practical.

I live in Gainesville and might be a buyer of this post-Challenge. Per Andy's comment above, it would be a hilarious rally-x vehicle for my son and me to use at the FIRM. I'd want it to keep the roof though so it could be parked outside.

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 PowerDork
1/18/23 1:51 p.m.

Yea count me in for an interested central florida buyer post challenge. 

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