Canyon diesel

First fuel up, averaged 26.5mpg, mostly town miles minus a 20 mile trailer tow test.

I love this truck. And it pulls better then my 2010 1500 did.

I have to get a new vehicle for sales/work in 10 months and I need to get something I can haul large reels of hose and different hose assemblies in - I have been looking at this truck along with the full size Silverado's. At some point can you do a full write-up from a sports car eye? I love driving a sedan (Accord 5-speed, 4-cylidner) but it gets old humping 125# reels of air hose into the back seat since it won't go into the trunk.

Not sure what a full write up would be. It's a truck. It does truck stuff. It's smaller then a full size, fits in a garage, and parks like a car - with the added bonus of getting the same mpg as your average compact car.

In reply to Dietcoke:

I don't know what compact cars you're driving are. A friend's Fiesta is averaging 43mpg, a friend's Focus (not a compact) is averaging 37mpg, when I borrowed a Forester for the weekend I averaged 30mpg with a lot of idling to keep the A/C cold while stopped...

(Biggest Forester rant. All that damn glass. Not only is it like driving a convertible with how little sun-blockage you get, but it stresses the heck out of the A/C system engineered for an Impreza, so you get to be hot with frozen fingers and right shin)

Dietcoke wrote: Not sure what a full write up would be. It's a truck. It does truck stuff. It's smaller then a full size, fits in a garage, and parks like a car - with the added bonus of getting the same mpg as your average compact car.

I think he means your experience with it. What you've done with it, what you like, what you don't like, anything you'd change, etc.

These trucks are still pretty new and seems to check a lot of the boxes especially for the guys here. If they had some real world info (as in not relying on the journalist POV), then maybe that would further their decision into purchasing one for themselves.

I think it's funny and sad that we always used to say 'if you're considering using a small truck for truck things, just get a full size because its truckier and gets the same mpg', and when we finally get modern diesel midsize pickups that get 'good' mileage, Ram Ecodiesel makes the old argument valid all over again.

But I am very glad the Colorado/Canyon diesels exist and i think the next iteration will be even more impressive, just like 6 years ago a 3.5 ecoboost f150 seemed impressive, but 2016 aluminum 2.7 ecoboost f150 is vastly more impressive. At least for the time being you can get a midsize truck with decent mpg that's only as big as full size trucks were 20 years ago for a nice change of pace.

I liked the Canyon/Colorado diesel a lot: here's my impression from a First Drive viewpoint:

http://driving.ca/chevrolet/colorado/reviews/road-test/first-drive-2016-chevrolet-colorado-diesel

It'll be interesting to see if pricing moves closer to 30k flat when the new jeep diesels start to appear in 20-28 months. There's a lot to like about the canyon/colorado diesels.

Vigo wrote: I think it's funny and sad that we always used to say 'if you're considering using a small truck for truck things, just get a full size because its truckier and gets the same mpg', and when we finally get modern diesel midsize pickups that get 'good' mileage, Ram Ecodiesel makes the old argument valid all over again.

The 2.7 F-150 is supposed to get better fuel economy, has more torque, and can tow more. And it runs on gasoline, not Diesel, which can be a lot more expensive, especially in winter.

The 2.7 F-150 is supposed to get better fuel economy, has more torque, and can tow more. And it runs on gasoline, not Diesel, which can be a lot more expensive, especially in winter.

You mean better than the older 3.5 Ford? It sure doesnt get better mpg than the ecodiesel ram, either on paper (sorta close) or in real life (not close at all). If you look up reviews people are not getting much better mileage with the 2.7 ecoboost than they get with a 5.0 gas v8 in the same truck. It's an impressive overall product but it does not have impressive mpg compared to an Ecodiesel Ram. On fuelly there's a ~5mpg difference in average economy and exactly zero 2.7s reporting in the 30s mpg, unlike the Ram.

Here we go again.

Not everyone wants a full size truck, hence the appeal of midsize trucks, regardless of the mileage and price.

You're just going to go in circles with this arguement. Every month I see more of these midsize GM twins on the road, so people are buying these trucks.

I like the trend of smaller pickups with diesels, it's about time the us got them

captdownshift wrote: It'll be interesting to see if pricing moves closer to 30k flat when the new jeep diesels start to appear in 20-28 months. There's a lot to like about the canyon/colorado diesels.

The 3.0l diesel in the grand cherokee has been out for a few years now. Its the same as the 3.0l Ram diesel. Or are talking about somthing new?

SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: Here we go again. Not everyone wants a full size truck, hence the appeal of midsize trucks, regardless of the mileage and price. You're just going to go in circles with this arguement. Every month I see more of these midsize GM twins on the road, so people are buying these trucks.

Made a point to ask the Canyon/ Colorado drivers met at the store or gas pumps what they think of their truck. They all came from full size pickups and they love their new trucks, not a negative word yet. Oddly, most seemed over 50. No diesels owners yet though.

Vigo wrote: ...unlike the Ram.

Well, whenever they're not stuck in the shop waiting for a new engine to arrive from Fiat.

In reply to RossD:

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/news/a28199/importance-of-jeep-pickup-truck/

Something new :)

I still think these are too big, and lack regular cab long bed option. I like the idea though.

fasted58 wrote:

SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: Here we go again. Not everyone wants a full size truck, hence the appeal of midsize trucks, regardless of the mileage and price. You're just going to go in circles with this arguement. Every month I see more of these midsize GM twins on the road, so people are buying these trucks.

Made a point to ask the Canyon/ Colorado drivers met at the store or gas pumps what they think of their truck. They all came from full size pickups and they love their new trucks, not a negative word yet. Oddly, most seemed over 50. No diesels owners yet though.

I had a friend that went from a double cab Colorado to a Silverado.

He didn't like the Colorado because it had a few weird problems( heater fan relay blew several times I believe) and he didn't feel the gas mileage made up for the lack of size. His 5 cyl Colorado got within 2 mpg of the Silverado with the smallest v8

Had half ton diesel trucks been around when I got my 2500, I sure would have given them a good look. I want diesel for towing ability, not for fuel economy when it's pretending to be a car. But now that I've got about 60k of towing miles with my Dodge, I'm pretty happy with the big boy because it's just so good at towing.

When I'm driving a truck, I'm okay with it being big. If I want something car sized, I drive a car

But I still like that they exist.

As for the price of diesel fuel vs gas - they seem to be independent of each other. Diesel is more consistent across the country and a bit more stable overall. I've seen price differentials at my place range from -25 to +90 cents for diesel.

Antihero wrote:

fasted58 wrote:

SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: Here we go again. Not everyone wants a full size truck, hence the appeal of midsize trucks, regardless of the mileage and price. You're just going to go in circles with this arguement. Every month I see more of these midsize GM twins on the road, so people are buying these trucks.

Made a point to ask the Canyon/ Colorado drivers met at the store or gas pumps what they think of their truck. They all came from full size pickups and they love their new trucks, not a negative word yet. Oddly, most seemed over 50. No diesels owners yet though.

I had a friend that went from a double cab Colorado to a Silverado. He didn't like the Colorado because it had a few weird problems( heater fan relay blew several times I believe) and he didn't feel the gas mileage made up for the lack of size. His 5 cyl Colorado got within 2 mpg of the Silverado with the smallest v8

5 cylinder is the old Colorado

fasted58 wrote:

Antihero wrote:

fasted58 wrote:

SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: Here we go again. Not everyone wants a full size truck, hence the appeal of midsize trucks, regardless of the mileage and price. You're just going to go in circles with this arguement. Every month I see more of these midsize GM twins on the road, so people are buying these trucks.

Made a point to ask the Canyon/ Colorado drivers met at the store or gas pumps what they think of their truck. They all came from full size pickups and they love their new trucks, not a negative word yet. Oddly, most seemed over 50. No diesels owners yet though.

I had a friend that went from a double cab Colorado to a Silverado. He didn't like the Colorado because it had a few weird problems( heater fan relay blew several times I believe) and he didn't feel the gas mileage made up for the lack of size. His 5 cyl Colorado got within 2 mpg of the Silverado with the smallest v8

5 cylinder is the old Colorado

Yes it is, I didn't see that we were just discussing the latest model

Antihero wrote: ...I didn't see that we were just discussing the latest model

Hmmmm...Diesel + 2nd post is of the new model...5cyls need not apply

I'm considering adding a pick-up to the fleet. I drove a crew-cab Sierra and Canyon back-to-back yesterday and was surprised at the lack of rear seat room in the Canyon. I'm a taller guy (6'-3" w/ 33" inseam.) With my seat set comfortably, there is no way my kids could comfortably fit behind me. The rest of the truck was nice... decent seating position & interior amenities, reasonably stout motor (didn't drive the diesel though) and enough bed storage for most tasks. But the lack of rear accommodations is a deal breaker for me.

Regardless of engine, keep in mind that some places (U-Haul for one) only rent trailers if it'll be pulled by a full-size truck. Not an issue if you own one but a PITA if you need it only occasionally.