Ceramic coatings

Ceramic coatings do add a few dollars to the budget, but they do look good--and also provide other benefits.

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http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/project-cars/1968-chevrolet-camaro/jet-hot-coating-dynatech-headers/

Ceramic coating was something I thought about for my Miata header, but lacking any definitive answers on how it compares to modern wraps, I went for the cheap wraps. I think you missed an opportunity to present some real numbers here - this reads more like an ad than I usually expect of you guys.

Reads like an ad? How?

Do you want them to wrap one header and coat the other header for some "real numbers here"?

carguy123 wrote: Do you want them to wrap one header and coat the other header for some "real numbers here"?

I think that would be an excellent idea!

Duke wrote:

carguy123 wrote: Do you want them to wrap one header and coat the other header for some "real numbers here"?

I think that would be an excellent idea!

yea, kinda like that Camaro insurance build

Duke wrote:

carguy123 wrote: Do you want them to wrap one header and coat the other header for some "real numbers here"?

I think that would be an excellent idea!

Exactly. My comment comes from being a (reformed) academic, where asking a question like "Is this just a fancy paint job or is there real merit to the technology?" and then "answering" it with a bunch of unsubstantiated claims won't convince anyone. I realize it's a magazine and there are advertisers to appease, but let's assume that we can all read Jet-Hot's website on our own if we want one-sided information.

This is the magazine that did (and repeated) a hard-core test of the hottest Street Touring tires and was widely applauded for doing so. Wouldn't you expect some real data before they conclude that Jet-Hot is the bees knees?

They haven't concluded Jet Hot is anything yet. They've repeated the benefits of ceramic coatings and this isn't coming just from Jet Hot.. Where did this list of benefits come from? Many years of hard data points.

They haven't said anything about what they think about it YET. I'm sure they'll be fair. And while they won't be able to do a one side vs. the other side test, anyone who has owned a car with headers needs nothing more than to lift the hood of a car with headers to immediately know the difference, it's quite striking!

peter wrote: Ceramic coating was something I thought about for my Miata header, but lacking any definitive answers on how it compares to modern wraps, I went for the cheap wraps. I think you missed an opportunity to present some real numbers here - this reads more like an ad than I usually expect of you guys.

Of course it reads like an "ad" because that is what it is. Its a JH commercial and the pics are right out of there PR package and website.......

The advantages and dis-advantages for both wrap and Ceramic Coating are nothing new. What info are you looking for exactly?

It'd be nice to get some sort of objective "Here's the (horsepower/underhood temperature/kittens per pillow) that we started with, and here's the improvement that the coating made."

Actually we're just trying to screw a car together and make sure it lasts.

The query on our part is whether Jet Hot is better than auto parts store hi temp paint. As the product has been used successfully for decades, we're not looking to validate, just gain a better understanding. Answer: The ceramic particles indeed serve an insulating process, and Jet Hot's coating WILL help your header(s) last longer. Jet Hot also spent a serious amount of time prepping those headers. We were surprised. That's all the mojo you get on this one.

As for the pictures, those are MY EXACT headers in those photos. Those are not PR photos. Also, hot tip: (pun intended) Jet Hot is NOT an advertiser and I paid for that coating with my own hard earned money. Don't tell my wife.

We don't spend every waking moment championing causes around here. Personally, I'm way more concerned with making sure my headers don't rust through anytime soon. Header wrap and store bought paint will not help in that regard.

We appreciate your interaction. /Steve

Here ya go....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_barrier_coating

Hmmm, I've got Summit headers that the PO says were ceramic coated on my C10 truck. And there's a little rust on them in spots. I wonder what the deal is... did they only coat them on the outside?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yttria-stabilized_zirconia

Dude! I have Yttria-Stabilized Zirconia on my Camaro. That is so bitchin'

CCPcoatings_com wrote:

peter wrote: Ceramic coating was something I thought about for my Miata header, but lacking any definitive answers on how it compares to modern wraps, I went for the cheap wraps. I think you missed an opportunity to present some real numbers here - this reads more like an ad than I usually expect of you guys.

Of course it reads like an "ad" because that is what it is. Its a JH commercial and the pics are right out of there PR package and website....... The advantages and dis-advantages for both wrap and Ceramic Coating are nothing new. What info are you looking for exactly?

Well, now I know someone that won't be getting any of my money.

CCPcoatings_com wrote: Of course it reads like an "ad" because that is what it is. Its a JH commercial and the pics are right out of there PR package and website....... The advantages and dis-advantages for both wrap and Ceramic Coating are nothing new. What info are you looking for exactly?

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Hmmm.....

Coated heaqders coe out ahead inmy book. I've got a header on my Capri that's 30 years old and doesnt' look it. It was Jet Hot coated and there is next to no wear to the coating, despite weather exposure from daily driving for 20 of those 30 years..

Wraps, however have the negative of being fabric. Wet situation and you don't run the car long enough to dry the fabric out completely and two things begin to happen; (1) the fabric begins to deteriorate from mold and other moisture related issues. (2) moisture trapped in the fabric attacks the headers unseen to you.

To those ends, fabric-wrapped headers have to be unwrapped and fabric replaced, as well as the headers repainted evey couple of years. And replacing headers can be required due to moisture-induced rust.