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JohnyHachi6
JohnyHachi6 HalfDork
6/7/13 12:31 a.m.

Anyone know of ab OEM source for longer wheel studs for a '90 Miata? I don't want to spend $100 on longer ARP studs for my $700 car, but would like to get some longer studs so I can run some small spacers (the OEM studs only have about 1 thread exposed past the lug nuts with the OEM wheels).

I seem to remember some Camaros have the same wheel stud geometry. I also have read that the Mazda MPV has studs that will work, but they're only ~1/8 longer. Anyone know of another OEM stud that's longer than the MPV ones which will fit?

Thanks!

novaderrik
novaderrik UberDork
6/7/13 1:46 a.m.

www.dormanproducts.com

happy hunting

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
6/7/13 7:12 a.m.

I thought 2nd gen RX7 studs are the same?

The fronts on an RX7 are longer than the rears.

I picked up some longer studs from Jegs for the front of our RX7.

Rob R.

z31maniac
z31maniac PowerDork
6/7/13 7:22 a.m.

There is a thread regarding hub failure on miataturbo.net right now in the Race Prep section.

Someone was mentioning F-body studs or something as being ARP, a bit longer, and for some reason, much cheaper than "Miata" specific studs.

JohnyHachi6
JohnyHachi6 HalfDork
6/7/13 9:25 a.m.

Looks like the front FC RX-7 studs might work pretty well for me. I'll try to find a set locally.

I'll order a set of the F-body ARP studs next season. If I get the 2.5" length the total cost would only be around $50 shipped.

Thanks guys.

motomoron
motomoron Dork
6/7/13 9:49 a.m.

For my Radical Prosport I measured the hole and knurl and spent some time looking through Summit and Speedway Motors.

I found nice quality stuff for about $50 for 20 parts w/ new nuts.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/7/13 9:53 p.m.

Keep in mind that the 1.6 cars use different studs than the 1.8. I think they're the same on all four wheels on the 1.6 cars, but the rears are bigger on a 1.8. Double-check that.

And yes, the F-body ones will fit. Drops the price of ARPs down considerably

JohnyHachi6
JohnyHachi6 HalfDork
6/7/13 9:57 p.m.
Keith Tanner wrote: Keep in mind that the 1.6 cars use different studs than the 1.8. I think they're the same on all four wheels on the 1.6 cars, but the rears are bigger on a 1.8. Double-check that.

This is correct as far as I can tell.

z31maniac
z31maniac PowerDork
6/7/13 10:17 p.m.
Keith Tanner wrote: Keep in mind that the 1.6 cars use different studs than the 1.8. I think they're the same on all four wheels on the 1.6 cars, but the rears are bigger on a 1.8. Double-check that. And yes, the F-body ones will fit. Drops the price of ARPs down considerably

IIRC, it's the 1.6 that are different front to rear.

I think the fronts are the same as the 1.8s, but the rears are different.........I'd need to find my receipts. Or vise versa. But I'm 99% positive it's the 1.6 cars that are different front to rear.

JohnyHachi6
JohnyHachi6 HalfDork
6/7/13 10:26 p.m.

I've read in a number of places that it's the early cars that are the same all around and later they switched to a larger knurled diameter in the rear. Some say the switch occurred in '92 some say with the 1.8 upgrade.

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
6/8/13 9:06 a.m.

when i consider replacing wheel studs, i always put "cheap" at the top of my attribute list.

z31maniac
z31maniac PowerDork
6/8/13 9:28 a.m.
JohnyHachi6 wrote: I've read in a number of places that it's the early cars that are the same all around and later they switched to a larger knurled diameter in the rear. Some say the switch occurred in '92 some say with the 1.8 upgrade.

You are correct, I obviously did not remember correctly.

iceracer
iceracer UberDork
6/8/13 10:00 a.m.

When I bought spacers, they came with longer wheel studs. H&R ? I forget.

wbjones
wbjones PowerDork
6/8/13 12:17 p.m.

H&R did so for me

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
6/9/13 7:58 a.m.

Can somebody tell me the length and knurl info for the f body studs? What year f body?

Teh E36 M3
Teh E36 M3 Dork
7/31/13 11:41 a.m.

Dragging this one up as I am in need. I looked at the F-body studs, and they don't have the little "nipple" at the tip that the miata-specific ones do. Does that matter?

F-Body 100-778:

Miata:

MTI_Racing
MTI_Racing New Reader
7/31/13 11:42 a.m.

i wouldn't go cheap on things that hold wheels on to cars....

codrus
codrus GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
7/31/13 12:26 p.m.
Teh E36 M3 wrote: Dragging this one up as I am in need. I looked at the F-body studs, and they don't have the little "nipple" at the tip that the miata-specific ones do. Does that matter?

The bump at the end is designed to make lugnuts less likely to cross-thread. Important if you're road racing with tire changing pitstops, but for general purpose use it's just a convenience.

As for "cheap" and wheel studs -- clearly this isn't a place to skimp on quality, but anything OEM spec off a much heavier car (like an F-body) that's the right size ought to work just fine.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
7/31/13 12:28 p.m.

They're not "cheap", they're still quality ARP studs. They're just from a car with higher production numbers so they're made in higher quantities. Same quality of stud.

Teh E36 M3
Teh E36 M3 Dork
7/31/13 12:52 p.m.
codrus wrote:
Teh E36 M3 wrote: Dragging this one up as I am in need. I looked at the F-body studs, and they don't have the little "nipple" at the tip that the miata-specific ones do. Does that matter?
The bump at the end is designed to make lugnuts less likely to cross-thread. Important if you're road racing with tire changing pitstops, but for general purpose use it's just a convenience. As for "cheap" and wheel studs -- clearly this isn't a place to skimp on quality, but anything OEM spec off a much heavier car (like an F-body) that's the right size ought to work just fine.

Thanks! Given that this is the core of the reason I'll have to replace them in the first place, I'm considering getting the "nippled" version. Also I like the way it sounds. Is there any cheaper car anyone knows of that would have the nippled version? Also, why does anyone want longer studs? Does it make mounting wheels easier/faster?

z31maniac
z31maniac PowerDork
7/31/13 12:57 p.m.

^Bullet nose.

codrus
codrus GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
7/31/13 1:26 p.m.
Teh E36 M3 wrote: Also, why does anyone want longer studs? Does it make mounting wheels easier/faster?

Longer studs let you put more stuff between the lugnut and the hub without running out threads. Spacers are the obvious example, but 2-piece rotors with aluminum hats sometimes require a thicker hat portion than iron ones.

Teh E36 M3
Teh E36 M3 Dork
7/31/13 1:38 p.m.

C'mon- you going to ruin this for me? Bullet nose =

Codrus- thanks. I have only about 3/16" clearance (if that) outside the wheels, so longer need not be a priority. This is an engine/suspension swapped MG Midget. Fresh on the road after 6+ months in charlie status, minus one wheel stud.

novaderrik
novaderrik UberDork
7/31/13 2:48 p.m.
codrus wrote:
Teh E36 M3 wrote: Also, why does anyone want longer studs? Does it make mounting wheels easier/faster?
Longer studs let you put more stuff between the lugnut and the hub without running out threads. Spacers are the obvious example, but 2-piece rotors with aluminum hats sometimes require a thicker hat portion than iron ones.

also, they make the car look more like a race car...

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
7/31/13 3:04 p.m.
Teh E36 M3 wrote: C'mon- you going to ruin this for me? Bullet nose = Codrus- thanks. I have only about 3/16" clearance (if that) outside the wheels, so longer need not be a priority. This is an engine/suspension swapped MG Midget. Fresh on the road after 6+ months in charlie status, minus one wheel stud.

Drop me a line if you just want one of the studs, they usually sell in packs of five. Or you can get single OE-length/quality ones at your local auto parts store.

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