Cheap turbo suggestion inside!

How'd you like that clickbait title? I'm going to start writing for some junk news website next. 

I'll deliver on my promise now. Have you guys checked out the price on Ford ecoboost turbos on car-parts.com lately? Consider how many Ford's are being junked with two turbos a piece from the eco V6's? Those turbos, either right or left, are going for under $300 in most cases. These are working units not worn out cores. 

These turbos are a bit undersized for the 3.5L motor they're attached to. Maybe that makes them ideally sized for a 2.0 motor in a single turbo system. They're quality, high dollar Honeywell turbos. 

Does anyone have any stories on fitment or things to consider before pressing these turbos into service on other cars? 

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The whole 2.0 Ecoboost engines can be had for $300-500 if pulled from an Escape or Fusion.

In reply to RossD :

Ecotoast. That’s not a bad deal either. 

In reply to RossD :

Wow, that is nuts. Now off to the interwebs to see about how to control this engine. 

Looks like Ford's $1700 control pack is the only real option other than faking the stock ECU into working. Not too bad since you can get a relatively easy to install 250hp 4 cylinder for $3k total. 

In reply to singleslammer :

Lettuce know what you find. 

singleslammer said:

In reply to RossD :

Wow, that is nuts. Now off to the interwebs to see about how to control this engine. 

 

Looks like Ford's $1700 control pack is the only real option other than faking the stock ECU into working. Not too bad since you can get a relatively easy to install 250hp 4 cylinder for $3k total. 

Wow. That's an amazing deal. I bet you could fit that in all the GRM favorites; e30, Miata, 240, etc....

In reply to Xceler8x :

And I think that it shares a bell housing pattern with the Duratec so Miata and Ranger transmissions are easy to use. 

So, in theory, you could swap a 2L Ecoboost into a Ranger? Hmmm...

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singleslammer said:

In reply to Xceler8x :

And I think that it shares a bell housing pattern with the Duratec so Miata and Ranger transmissions are easy to use. 

Well I was fantasizing about 4bt swapping the ranger, but an ecoboost would be fun and far more affordable.

I still need to hit the lottery first, I was hoping for some lucky numbers in this thread. 

How do they mount? Sounds like it would be a cool alternative for the SR20 guys who are goign cheap if it mounts to the stock manifold. Bonus points if it has a garrett hotside but exhaust is cheap. 

So what I found out today is the ecotec miata guys are also working on a swap kit that lets you take the solstice trans which can hold a lot more power and let you use the LE5 or the LNF

In reply to Trackmouse :

Turbo noises obviously

In reply to kanaric :

It fits anywhere an NC Miata drivetrain fits.  I believe all the FWD MZR/Duratec/Ecoboost blocks have the holes tapped for RWD engine mounts.

only problem is there are tons of other options if you want to get a 250hp turbo 4cylinder for less than $3k. Most have easier engine management too.

- saab

- dodge

- mitsubishi

- VW

- Ford

- volvo

- subaru

- etc

nothing against the ecoboost, but the $1700 control pack swings hard against it. Now, anyone have a good weight on the ecoboost?

In reply to Robbie :

For the "engine only" it's about 300lb.  Whatever "engine only" means.

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Matthew Kennedy said:

In reply to kanaric :

It fits anywhere an NC Miata drivetrain fits.  I believe all the FWD MZR/Duratec/Ecoboost blocks have the holes tapped for RWD engine mounts.

I was more talking about the 3.5l turbos not the 4 cylinder ecoboost engine. 

That is nice that engine will swap into a miata though. 

In reply to Robbie :

Ya and more than even you listed and that is just 4 cylinder. You can get a RB20DET straight 6 for like $800 and it will make 250hp easily.  A lot of people go with that over SR20DET in 240SXs because of how cheap they are, though I wouldn't do that lol. 

What is the bolt pattern on those Ecoboost turbos?

Robbie said:

only problem is there are tons of other options if you want to get a 250hp turbo 4cylinder for less than $3k. Most have easier engine management too.

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nothing against the ecoboost, but the $1700 control pack swings hard against it. Now, anyone have a good weight on the ecoboost?

I'm not sure where the $3k number came from. The 2.0 Ecoboost started around the $3-500 range on Car-part.com and the controls pack is sold for $1700.

Then when you use the controls pack you get 360 ft-lbs at the 2900-3000 rpm range. That's about 202 hp at 2950 prm. They also say peak torque from 2000-4500 rpm. So say you still have 350 ft-lbs at 4500 rpm, you've got 300 hp from a factory tune.

93EXCivic said:

What is the bolt pattern on those Ecoboost turbos?

Same as the four cylinder Duratec AFAIK. Which means an NC Miata trans bolts on, which is great news for swapping into longitudinal RWD cars.

Just for those considering Ecoboost swaps into Duratec/MZR vehicles, the ecoboost has a high pressure fuel pump that hangs off the back of the cylinder head a few inches. It sure looks like it would require firewall modification at a minimum in a Ranger. I assume there's limited firewall clearance in a Miata too. Also, it's probably cheaper/easier to just turbo the factory engine, buy bigger injectors, and a $400 OBD tune compared to swapping everything, modding the firewall, and buying a $1700 control pack from Ford. But don't let me stop you.

These turbos are a bit undersized for the 3.5L motor they're attached to. Maybe that makes them ideally sized for a 2.0 motor in a single turbo system. They're quality, high dollar Honeywell turbos. 

 

Unfortunately that's not true. A small turbo for one half of a 3.5L is still a small turbo on a ~1.7L. Those turbos are tiny and probably wouldn't be the enthusiast's choice on anything bigger than a 1.0.  Most enthusiasts who are willing to modify their car  to the extent required to turbocharge it are willing to give up torque at ~1700 rpm in favor of significantly more high rpm power, so turbos like these won't find much purchase among people turboing previously non-turbo cars.  

I would say the one exception is people bolting stock turbos and manifolds to previously non-turbo v6s. This was common in the past with non-turbo 3000Gts and 300Zxs and i know i've seen at least one video of a person who did this on a 3.7L mustang using take-off 3.5 ecoboost parts.  

In reply to Vigo :

You say this and half the forum now thinks of turbo metros.