David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
6/3/09 8:51 p.m.

http://www.freep.com/article/20090603/BUSINESS01/90603096/Indiana+pensioners+delay++Fiat+s+purchase+of+Chrysler

So, how do you think this will go down?

Hal
Hal HalfDork
6/3/09 9:08 p.m.

Some people are determined to cut off their nose to spite their face.

carguy123
carguy123 Dork
6/4/09 12:01 a.m.

I see their point and that deadline works in their favor to get a more favorable settlement.

John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/4/09 6:22 a.m.

I also seeing Bertollicorp sayi "Aye... Fokka you!"

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury HalfDork
6/4/09 6:36 a.m.

While I like the idea of Fiatsler or Chrysiat or whatever, I have read a lot of articles about how this sale steps all over the "grey" zone in bankrupcy law. Im not sure which way I stand because I dont know all the rules, but Im sure theres good arguments both ways and Im looking forward to watching it play out.

TR3only
TR3only Reader
6/4/09 6:53 a.m.

Didn't GM once try to buy into Fiat? I'll bet this kind of thinking was what stopped the deal.

Jensenman
Jensenman SuperDork
6/4/09 10:45 a.m.

It's 'Frysler' or 'Criat', we ain't sure which.

alfadriver
alfadriver HalfDork
6/4/09 11:17 a.m.
TR3only wrote: Didn't GM once try to buy into Fiat? I'll bet this kind of thinking was what stopped the deal.

More than just buy into it- Fiat and GM did a stock swap- 2B trade. It was a pretty significant part of Fiat.

Went a long for quite a while- the whole Kappa platform was part of it (I would bet that the solstace/sky plant would make some Fiats and other Opels).

But GM figured that Fiat wasn't worth it, started to balk, and Fiat forced GM to pay them off via a one time $2B payoff. Thus ending the deal.

Now, besides Fiat going after Chrysler, they are also attepting to make a deal on Opel. That was a rather fast turn around, if you ask me.... (smells fishy for this industry)

Eric

Jensenman
Jensenman SuperDork
6/4/09 11:37 a.m.

Sounds like Fiat is getting ready to overextend themselves, IMHO. IIRC, they have had financial problems of their own prior to all this.

There was something in the news about a Chinese company possibly buying HUMMER.

alfadriver
alfadriver HalfDork
6/4/09 11:40 a.m.
Jensenman wrote: There was something in the news about a Chinese company possibly buying HUMMER.

Yes- http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2009906030334

Carson
Carson HalfDork
6/4/09 6:29 p.m.

I know the odds are slim but I'd really like one of these stateside:

I don't care if it's badged as a Chrysler or not.

RexSeven
RexSeven HalfDork
6/4/09 7:00 p.m.

Alfadriver: I think Magna Auto Parts of Canada is lined up to get Opel/Vauxhall. Fiat was interested in them, but Germany felt something was amiss.

Carson: Me too.

ddavidv
ddavidv SuperDork
6/5/09 5:16 a.m.

The latest fairly reliable news from inside Fiat tells me we are to get 500's in 2011. It will be the only 'pure' Fiat sold here. The others will be rebodied or rebadged as Chrysler products. Assuming the whole deal doesn't get mucked up before then.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/5/09 7:15 a.m.

should be just in time for me to consider a brand new car too....

Carson
Carson HalfDork
6/5/09 7:56 a.m.

Will our version have 7/8ths the power and weigh 7/8ths more?

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