listening to the international broadcast audio they were chatting about the future related to the hybrids and the new pro class.
I was listening and thinking.. the most logical answer, but not the cheapest.. is for Corvette to become a Hybrid program with LMH/LMDh.
Corvette is becoming a more serious international brand since they're going to make the C8 available as a RHD platform.
I'll be curious to see what they do, but I think their time as a GT program has come to an end for a while..
this was a model done by Pratt and Miller a number of years ago for a corvette lmp when the aco was considering making the lmp class have production styling elements etc. The model was later modified for use as the corvette daytona prototype.
350z247
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1/31/21 6:46 p.m.
In reply to spacecadet (Forum Supporter) :
I see no reason for Corvette to not be a GT classed car. It's no better than the NSX, AMG GT, R8, Hurucan, 488, M6, 911, or any other current/past GT car they've competed against. If they wanted to do both programs, sure, that would make sense, but to not have a GT classed Corvette would be weird.
In reply to 350z247 :
I mean the big reason to run Prototype vs GT within the new regs is having a class on both sides of the pond with one car. GT Pro does not have a direct parallel at LeMans right now.
This is an interesting move.
As a fan I'd like to see GT4 move up to be the lower GT series. What to do for the Michelin Pilot Challenge Series? Go back to the old GS and ST rules that we had from like 2006-2016 and saw huge fields of cars that anyone could go buy from a dealer and race. I'm sorry but the TCR cars aren't cool.
In reply to DirtyBird222 :
From what I have heard, modern electronics make it much harder to race a production car than you'd think. I'm also a fan of GS and ST, but some of the development cost figures that I have heard would make your eyes pop out of your head.
David S. Wallens said:
In reply to DirtyBird222 :
From what I have heard, modern electronics make it much harder to race a production car than you'd think. I'm also a fan of GS and ST, but some of the development cost figures that I have heard would make your eyes pop out of your head.
Yeah, this. Building real race cars out of new cars just isn't a thing anymore. It's barely possible to even put a race seat in many modern cars without defeating several safety interlocks. Check out Robb Holland's Pike's Peak C7 build sometime. Just putting a seat and a steering wheel in that car was a serious electronic engineering undertaking.
In reply to JG Pasterjak :
And add in modern immobilizers. I have heard stories of pro race cars needing to head to grid with the fob secured somewhere in the car so that all systems would work.
Suddenly a GT4/TCR car seems to make sense, and that's before you consider resale. (Actually, we have run these numbers before--let me see if I can remember the article.)
DirtyBird222 said:
This is an interesting move.
As a fan I'd like to see GT4 move up to be the lower GT series. What to do for the Michelin Pilot Challenge Series? Go back to the old GS and ST rules that we had from like 2006-2016 and saw huge fields of cars that anyone could go buy from a dealer and race. I'm sorry but the TCR cars aren't cool.
something closer to the SRO Americas TC class I would be a fan of over the TCR cars.. but i don't dislike the TCR cars themselves..
https://hpd.honda.com/Articles/Touring/TypeR
This was put out by honda a while back to talk about the Civic Type R TC car.
significantly cheaper to purchase as a car.. can't say the running costs are going to be THAT much cheaper than a TCR car.. but the purchase of the car certainly is..
In reply to David S. Wallens :
Additionally these factory race cars are most likely insurable. The insurance wouldn’t be cheap but possible.
In reply to spacecadet (Forum Supporter) :
The HPD Civics are cool. I have driven the Si. Hyundai also offers a ready-to-run TCA car.
And here's a piece we did on that TCA Civic Si.
You can compare the three "spec" Civic race cars here.
Here's the data, including prices:
$52,500 for that Civic TCA car is an absolute bargain.
In reply to JG Pasterjak :
It was fun, too. 
David S. Wallens said:
In reply to JG Pasterjak :
And add in modern immobilizers. I have heard stories of pro race cars needing to head to grid with the fob secured somewhere in the car so that all systems would work.
That . . . blows my mind.
Strike_Zero said:
David S. Wallens said:
In reply to JG Pasterjak :
And add in modern immobilizers. I have heard stories of pro race cars needing to head to grid with the fob secured somewhere in the car so that all systems would work.
That . . . blows my mind.
They even need to do it in iRacing! Look down in M4 GT4 and the key fob is strapped to the center console lol
350z247
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2/2/21 4:27 p.m.
In reply to adam525i (Forum Supporter) :
That is an incredible easter egg
In reply to adam525i (Forum Supporter) :
That's awesome. I heard about a Porsche race car with a similar setup--and we're talking about a pro series car, too.
That's amazing.
Also, in the spirit of GS/ST type racing, my pipe dream/wish is for something like Champcar to actually get big enough to get televised. Or a series of "pro" vintage racing. Old cars, but ones that are not so valuable that they can't be raced hard.
Or, hear me out: Pontiac Grand Prix vs. Ford Taurus vs. Chevy Monte Carlo. Just like Nascar, but with the actual street cars. Days of Thunder rental car scene, but with 40 cars on a street circuit. 
In reply to slowbird :
I feel like this sort of racing gets decent coverage in Australia, I used to catch a lot of it on Youtube but the feeds were all from their Fox Sports at the time to go along with their V8 Supercars series so it seemed like it was available on TV.
Blend Line TV has a lot of that racing from GT4 down to a Nissan Pulsar Cup and a bunch of stuff in between including a spec Holden HQ series
In reply to JG Pasterjak :
In reply to adam525i (Forum Supporter) :
In reply to slowbird :
For "pro vintage" racing, maybe the SVRA Race of Champions would work on TV. The series puts pro and am drivers in vintage Corvettes, Camaros and Mustangs.
