Contemplating an Ur S6. Talk me down?

I love me some 20v Turbo goodness, and I won't be in an Ur Quattro anytime soon... Next best thing?

What to look out for? What's it worth? How many were imported? (I ask, because I've seen numbers as low as 300)

The overall cost of the car would be 7K. We are currently negotiating a partial trade, as I have a car he "wants".

Car has just over 120K, iirc. It's been owned by a mechanic I trust for the last 30K. It was an Alaska car (they don't salt roads) for it's whole life, so rust is absolutely minimal.

I don't know the extent of the service records, but this will be part of the negotiation, I'm sure.

Thoughts?

If its an Avante I would say oh hell yes. If not I dunno

It's a Sedan. I still like it. Would like an Avant more, but the sedan still has the sweet sweet 20v Turbo nectar.

As long as the electrics are OK and the trans and diff are fine, I say go for it. Then get yourself a drainpipe exahust and a big ol' chirping BOV for some Group B commuting.

Why not?

Think of it as a Porsche sedan in terms of maintenance cost and difficulty but with VW's frustrating "why can't you stay fixed" problems. I had a Coupe Quattro 20v. It was a nightmare. I can only imagine the demons that 500 more pounds of luxury garbage and some forced induction would bring...the quality of some of the VAG OEM stuff is astoundingly low. My previous CQ (and, actually, the UrS6) shipped with a non-replaceable plastic distributor gear that was known for randomly cracking or shearing off. Mine did. On my way to work. In bumper-to-bumper traffic. Such bizarre component failures are pretty common.

$7k is really really expensive for a sedan unless it is flawless. The wagons are the really rare ones that bring big money - there were only 300-ish UrS6 wagons imported. The sedans are practically a dime a dozen by comparison, and I have looked at a few in the $4-5k price range.

The motor is stout but they are brutally difficult to wrench on (front end needs to come off to do the timing belt), electrical maladies are common, and like any VAG product, get comfortable with the thought of something minor always being wrong with it. If you keep it up it will do 300k+ but most can't be bothered to spend the money to keep it up...they were all factory galvanized, though, so you have to try really hard to find one with bad rust. Insane horsepower can be had but inline-5 Audi tuning is not for the faint of wallet: 034motorsport.com

My buddy Kevin had one for years, finally sold it for a Golf R32 last year.

EDIT: Figured this might be relevant - the seating position in the Audi C4 cars SUCKS. It just feels wrong, it's not nearly as good as the earlier C3 (100/200). Like you're sitting on the seats, not in them, and too high up. As a prior C3 owner it really really bothered me.

SlickDizzy wrote: Think of it as a Porsche sedan...

I stopped reading after this part. That's all I need to hear!!!

Really, I couldn't work in a better place for keeping something like this maintained. I fully expect to have to fix a few things here and there, and we have the parts to do it.

Also, this would be a third car. If something minor were to go pear shaped, I always have the 944 that I could drive (so far, it's performed flawlessly. Knock on wood.).

I had one for a little while. They're great highway cars and you can get stupid power out of them. Mine had 85k miles on it when I bought it, probably the lowest mileage one out there.

Body parts are NLA, if you destroy the front bumper you're literally SOL. The "regular" Audi 100 bumper doesn't really fit...

Electrical problems are a big issue and you're constantly going to be fixing something on the car. These cars require regular attention and feeding. Parts can be expensive and somewhat hard to find sometimes.

On the plus side there's a very active community for them, so lots of support.

For $7000 that better be a perfect sedan, ie interior/exterior are perfect and mechanically needs nothing with all maintenance up to date. You can get an avant for that price and the avants are worth far more...

Buy it and save it from being parted out for a 4000/80/90/Coupe swap. Even nice examples are dangerously close to the threshold where they're worth less than the sum of their parts.

People who complain about having to pull the nose off to do a timing belt have NO IDEA HOW GOOD THEY HAVE IT. Being able to remove bodywork for ease of access is a luxury that I wish you could have for transverse engines! And really, they make it easy - couple bolts here, couple connectors there, and off it comes and the world opens up, walk in and start wrenching. It's awesome.

Motorgeek is a forum with lots of people with good information on everything 5-cylinder. It's also the forum for 034 Motorsport, but they're surprisingly cool with people talking about competitors' products.

Price sounds a little high, unless everything works and maintenance history is perfect. Awesome car though, I have had 5 cylinder quattros for about 15 years now and am hooked. Current one is a 90 20 valve sedan with under 90K miles. Love the sound of a 20 valve at 7000 rpm!

You bastard you. I've emailed this guy to see if he'll take $750

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-trucks-1993-Audi-s4-W0QQAdIdZ393817339

I hate you, I hate you, I hate you !

Jeff wrote: You bastard you. I've emailed this guy to see if he'll take $750 http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-trucks-1993-Audi-s4-W0QQAdIdZ393817339 I hate you, I hate you, I hate you !

When you get it, mosey up to Georgetown and see if Frank and Dan at Fourstar have any go-fast bits left over from the A2 Quattro...