Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 PowerDork
2/20/17 10:59 a.m.

So, i need a hose that doesn't exist. Which means i can have the opportunity to make one!

Ive got two hoses. One fits the ford power steering pump. One fits the jeep grand Cherokee box. Neither fits both.

So what i need to do is take the pump end and box end respectively and attach them together for as cheap as humanly possible.

Tig welding is out. Local hydraulic hose shop wont touch it. Off the shelf adapters are too expensive.

Other options? My last thought was to flare the metal tube with a pair of inverted female flares and run a double iff coupler.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ SuperDork
2/20/17 11:03 a.m.

Are the thread sizes close? Is one drastically larger than the other?

I'm wondering if you can drill and tap either the pump or the box to take the correct fitting- tap is a tool and therefore budget exempt, it doesn't get cheaper than that!

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 PowerDork
2/20/17 11:06 a.m.

One is o ring, the other is a ford specialty fitting at the pump. Box is the o ring. Its not the thread size, its seal type.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/20/17 11:11 a.m.

Why is tig out?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ SuperDork
2/20/17 11:12 a.m.

OK, and what are the lines? If the Cherokee line uses a common fitting at the pump end then maybe you could drill/machine out the Ford specialty whatever?

I don't think the flare and union idea is terrible provided the hard lines are compatible sizes.

Another option- go to junkyard, walk around measuring things hoping that some other Ford with the weird PS pump fitting uses the same O-ring connection at the box/rack.

maschinenbau
maschinenbau GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
2/20/17 11:37 a.m.

Can you just cut each hose in half and crimp a union in between? Your local hydraulic hose shop should be able to get one for you and crimp it on for like 20 bucks.

About the TIG welding - When I fixed AC in the Roadmonster, I took the cracked hose out, cut it up and found a better routing. Then I brought both pieces to the local hose shop. They cut off the old crimp fitting, welded a new one on, and crimped it back together for like 45 bucks.

Robbie
Robbie GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
2/20/17 11:50 a.m.

Find a different hydraulic shop?

I can usually bring in a box of donuts and they will crimp me whatever I need.

Might have to put a box of donuts in the challenge budget...

44Dwarf
44Dwarf UltraDork
2/20/17 11:55 a.m.

Try Surplus Center they have all sorts of adapters and premade hoses etc. surplus center

BrokenYugo
BrokenYugo MegaDork
2/20/17 11:55 a.m.

I'll second the crimp union if the hoses have identical IDs. Plenty of rural hardware stores do basic hydraulic hose work cheap and don't ask many questions.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy UltimaDork
2/20/17 12:02 p.m.

Is there enough steel on either end to cut and connect with a 3/8 compression fitting?

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 PowerDork
2/20/17 12:17 p.m.

Would a normal compression fitting survive the pressure? Because I have some, and there is enough tubing to use one.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/20/17 12:21 p.m.

Why won't the hydrualic shop touch it?

We have our local NAPA make hoses for us all the time like that. Splice pump hose A to steering box hose B. Done.

BrokenYugo
BrokenYugo MegaDork
2/20/17 12:30 p.m.

In reply to Dusterbd13:

Brass? No. A steel one is rated for it though.

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 PowerDork
2/20/17 3:08 p.m.

Im going to have to try napa and o'reilly. The local hydraulic hose shop wont touch it because they refuse to reuse anything. If its not all new, they want no part.

Tig is out due to me not having one, local welding shop has 35 minimum charge for tig.

Hose splice would be perfect if the parts store can do it.

Hal
Hal UltraDork
2/20/17 5:33 p.m.
Dusterbd13 wrote: Im going to have to try napa and o'reilly. Hose splice would be perfect if the parts store can do it.

If the auto parts stores can't handle it start looking for your local John Deere, Case,etc. dealership. Tractor repair places deal with hydraulic lines every day.

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 PowerDork
2/20/17 5:36 p.m.

Cool. Will do. I actually have a huge john deere dealer closer than the parts store.

Datsun310Guy
Datsun310Guy PowerDork
2/20/17 5:53 p.m.

We make a lot of hydraulic hoses. I've been told of ends blowing off and a guy gets hurt. It's all about the liability. Everybody freaks out with used hoses.

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand Dork
2/20/17 6:05 p.m.
Robbie wrote: Find a different hydraulic shop? I can usually bring in a box of donuts and they will crimp me whatever I need. Might have to put a box of donuts in the challenge budget...

I vote no on this rule as Team Stampie members can't pass a donut shop without stopping.

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess MegaDork
2/20/17 6:32 p.m.

My local NAPA place does stuff like that. They reused the hose end for the Caldina AC compressor and put it on the hose for the RAV4. Charged me like 10 or 15 bucks.

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