Cutting used tires for disposal

In reply to SVreX:

Well spotted!

Want a business partner??

Wouldn't cryogenic processing be more efficient than mechanical? Could a small scale cryo plant be feasible? It piqued my interest some years ago when recycling wasn't just eco-green anymore but $ green. I haven't followed it much since.

I use a sawzall with a demo blade and clamp the tire in a large vise. Cut close to the vise and it doesn't vibrate excessively.

ransom wrote: is there a place that takes them from the tire shops with whom you could get registered as a very small tire shop?

No.

ransom wrote: EDIT: I can't post something so distinctly not what you asked without apologizing for it, but it just looks like an ugly gig trying to cut those things up without the giant hydraulic shears...

I agree...ANYTHING that does not involve me actually performing the work of cutting a tire into two or four pieces is a worthwhile pursuit. I will pursue that...but if I find it can be done easily myself without buying one of the GIHUGEROUS machines above (for cubic dollars)...I'd look into it. I've got this mental short. I think they call it being a cheap-ass.

Clem

SVreX wrote: Looks like a business opportunity to me.

I've thought about this before and consider it to be a possibility in the future...for sure. I just haven't done the legwork/research...nor do I have the commercial property to do it.

Clem

93gsxturbo wrote:

Lol...plus one.

fasted58 wrote: I spose you could GRM fab something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HooBh1Sg5A

That's the tool! And yeah...I suppose I should put on my machine/hydraulic design had...because it's just a big-ass shear and a hydraulic ram. I like.

Thanks for posting!

Does anyone know a cheap DIY way to get tires off of the rims if the rims are shot and only food for scrap anyways? I've never done it but have a set in my basement that need getting rid of

Where is Missouri?

There are plenty of places around which shred them and burn them up as a coal replacement in powerplants?

In reply to nepa03focus:

The HF tire machine works fine once solidly bolted to the floor... I must have dismounted and mounted 50+ tires on mine to date... and it is more than paid for on the first set..

I've tried to cut tires a bunch of times and this is the only thing that makes the job anything other than miserable.

Here's one on eBay for $350. Of course you'll also need a pump, some hoses and about a gallon of really expensive hydraulic fluid.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HURST-Jaws-of-Life-Cutter-Tool-/251252678866?pt=BI_Security_Fire_Protection&hash=item3a7fd3a0d2

Modify a log splitter?

I have considered a shredder before as a business idea. In some areas where aggregates are hard to come by they can take the place of drain rock . So there is a market, and here at least there are start up grants available because you are recycling a difficult to dispose of product. Trouble here is that gravel is as common as....well,dirt in my area so no market for the chips.

http://www.shercomindustries.com/tireshred

patgizz wrote: i'm not sure why one would want to pay a not insignificant amount for tooling and consumables to clog up a landfill with tire chunks when tires you pay a small fee to dispose of get munched up and recycled. .

I was thinking this from the very first post.

It's all messy and slow. My best results are with a side angle grinder and a DeWalt steel cutting wheel. Since it's a small kerf, the smoke and mess is minimized.

I could never get the sawsall to go through the cords. It would catch and jiggle instead. Over and over again.

You're lucky you're legally allowed to cut up tires and dispose of them that way.

Buddy of mine had a skill saw that was mounted on the end of a long rod and swung like a pendulum. He used it to chop up boxcar floors that he then used to heat the house.

Myself, I would rig up a hydraulic cylinder and make a cutting shear.No smell and no sawdust.

patgizz wrote: i'm not sure why one would want to clog up a landfill with tire chunks when tires you pay a small fee to dispose of get munched up and recycled. i have yet to find any good way other than knife the sidewall all the way around and bolt cutters on the bead.

You're making the assumption that all tires that you take to the tire shop are "recycled."

When I poked around looking at the list of "Permitted Tire Processors" in MO (http://www.dnr.mo.gov/env/swmp/tires/tireprocessors.htm)...it seemed the majority of them (9 out of 17) were listed as "Cuts tires for disposal."

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I've also looked into this before. The state of tire recycling. While recycling tires would be great...there are only so many playgrounds you can spread the crumbled rubber on. And yes...there are other uses for old tires...but the supply overpowers the demand by orders of magnitude based on my deductions. When we decide to make tires out of something that can be used again (more readily) or find technologies that make current tires more readily useable/recycleable...that will be great. But we don't have that yet.
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The majority of these permitted processors are about 2 hours from me. The one that's 1/2 hour away is not open to the public.

Listen folks...I agree, the best way to do this is to find someone who's set up to do this. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I ASKED.

I'll say it again...YES...paying someone to take the tires is FAR AND AWAY the best, easiest, cheapest way to do it. And that will be my first choice. But I wanted to ask folks who have done it the hard way...what the easiest hard way is. Nobody needs to convince me that I should just find someone to take the tires away. I was convinced of that before I started the thread.

Thanks,
Clem

One of the common recycled uses of tires is as landfill cover.

If you don't want to start a business just to get rid of your old tires... leave them in the paddock at your local race track. They build tire walls and drop them around electrical posts.

I wait until Tire Kingdom is closed and dump them in the bin full of scrap tires in back of the building.

SVreX wrote:

ransom wrote:

ClemSparks wrote: Take it to a "permited tire processor" (of which there are none, open to the public, in my area).

This all sounds like such a sticky wicket that I find myself wondering at what point it makes sense to find out what it takes to stop being a member of the public, assuming the above means there is one in your area that just won't deal with the general public... I mean, is there a place that takes them from the tire shops with whom you could get registered as a very small tire shop? Or at what point it makes sense to find out where the nearest one that *will* deal with the public is and work out how to batch trips there? Maybe someone will have a Better Way, but all these options would have me looking very hard at how to have the tires taken care of by someone properly equipped to do so. EDIT: I can't post something so distinctly not what you asked without apologizing for it, but it just looks like an ugly gig trying to cut those things up without the giant hydraulic shears...

That's funny. I had a COMPLETELY different attitude about the same thing. My take is, if there are no "permitted tire processors" in your area, what would it take to not only become one, but earn ALL the recycling business of ALL the tire stores in your area? Looks like a business opportunity to me. Customers PAY a fee to haul them. Junkyards pay BIG cleanup fees. Then process the tires into raw materials for any number of other things, and SELL it to a manufacturer. Meanwhile, look into green credits, emission tax credits, etc. etc. Hot melt asphalt... crumb rubber modifier...recycled asphalt pavement...aggregate in portland cement concrete...recycled into other tires... grind up and use as bark mulch...weeds prevention...concrete binder/ filler for green buildings...fuel gas...oils...pyrolysis processing...carbon black...activated carbon...etc. etc. I'd be looking for opportunities, instead of measuring it as an expense.

+1 on this ^^^^

The fuel recovery from pyrolysis is the first thing I thought about when I read this. Once a few of the puzzle pieces are put together, I think there would be potential for profit. The tech is there... it just needs to be applied. A board like this would be a perfect think tank for stuff like this....

And as far as removing the rims from the tires, I have seen modified log splitters used for this on youtube.

Something like this.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-_YQcwhILI

jstein77 wrote: I wait until Tire Kingdom is closed and dump them in the bin full of scrap tires in back of the building.

LOL