Starting at $39,000
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Chevy EV pickup5&1/2 foot bed
Ford EV pickup 5&1/2 foot bed
Tesla Cyber truck 6&1/3 foot bed
top line Tri motor Truck $69,900 500 mile range.
1.2 million trucks already ordered.
Starting at $39,000
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Chevy EV pickup5&1/2 foot bed
Ford EV pickup 5&1/2 foot bed
Tesla Cyber truck 6&1/3 foot bed
top line Tri motor Truck $69,900 500 mile range.
1.2 million trucks already ordered.
Really really curious to see what the actual MSRP ends up being when the truck makes it to market.
1.2 million ordered already sounds a lot like the pre sale of the model 3. I signed up early and was quickly informed that unless I opted for the dual motor extended range I was looking at an 18 month wait. No thanks for an untested musk adventure.
Given the muskrat's abysmally low rate of actually delivering on bis promises I imagine the Tesla ponzi scheme will fall apart long before these make it to production.
If they had delivered when they said the would, maybe they would have done well, but you can only sell lies for so long. Other companies are now producing real electric trucks that you can actually buy. Tesla lost any market share they thought they had.
Interesting that cyber truck mules were suddenly and conspicuously sent out and about in LA, capturing automotive/social media attention... Almost as if they were trying to redirect people's attention away from some other news that just broke:
frenchyd said:Starting at $39,000
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Chevy EV pickup5&1/2 foot bedFord EV pickup 5&1/2 foot bed
Tesla Cyber truck 6&1/3 foot bed
top line Tri motor Truck $69,900 500 mile range.
1.2 million trucks already ordered.
Your prices are just wishful thinking from a simpler time in 2019. Tesla removed all pricing from the Cybertruck's web page in October of 2021. Musk himself has said they're going to be more expensive than what was originally hyped.
All of these EVs get hyped up to generate interest with a bunch of flashy numbers about range, price, power, etc. Until they're released and in the real world it's all just speculation and hype. You have to just wait and see what eventually comes to market, and then compare them in the real world instead of a spec sheet.
I'd also like to point out that a fully refundable $100 reservation is not the same thing as an order or sale. Having 1.2 million reservations, (or whatever the number is) shows some interest but it doesn't mean much outside of giving Tesla an interest free loan for years while you wait for your truck to eventually, maybe be built.
If it comes it'll be interesting.
I'm skeptical and with ford and checy entrants into the market. I don't think he can compete.
itsarebuild said:1.2 million ordered already sounds a lot like the pre sale of the model 3. I signed up early and was quickly informed that unless I opted for the dual motor extended range I was looking at an 18 month wait. No thanks for an untested musk adventure.
And we all know how poorly the Model 3 has fared.
Wait...
$39k?
Is that the adjusted price assuming you get the full tax credit, and subtracting the cost of fuel that a non-electric truck would use?
I suspect there is some big assumptions that go into that price, but would leave a buyer with a significantly larger initial cost at time of purchase.
Santa Claus
Travels the world in a single night
Delivers toys to good girls and boys
Propelled by magical reindeer
Has a secret compound manned by elves
More likely to appear by year's end than customer cybertrucks
All the posted specs are valid or invalid as any believer wants them to be until either Santa or the production Cybertruck actually exist. Had it come out in a timely manner it could have been revolutionary, now it will be another electric pickup but less practical than what's already available. Same for the mythical Semi truck.
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STM317 said:frenchyd said:Starting at $39,000
0-60 times of 2.9 seconds.
Chevy EV pickup5&1/2 foot bedFord EV pickup 5&1/2 foot bed
Tesla Cyber truck 6&1/3 foot bed
top line Tri motor Truck $69,900 500 mile range.
1.2 million trucks already ordered.Your prices are just wishful thinking from a simpler time in 2019. Tesla removed all pricing from the Cybertruck's web page in October of 2021. Musk himself has said they're going to be more expensive than what was originally hyped.
All of these EVs get hyped up to generate interest with a bunch of flashy numbers about range, price, power, etc. Until they're released and in the real world it's all just speculation and hype. You have to just wait and see what eventually comes to market, and then compare them in the real world instead of a spec sheet.
I'd also like to point out that a fully refundable $100 reservation is not the same thing as an order or sale. Having 1.2 million reservations, (or whatever the number is) shows some interest but it doesn't mean much outside of giving Tesla an interest free loan for years while you wait for your truck to eventually, maybe be built.
That all may be true. Or not. How much does the price need to go up to match Chevy and Fords entry level? Or speed go down?
I like the fact that paint ( or they might get a wrap) is an option because the stainless steel bodies won't really need paint.
While Ford has some available they aren't selling at the prices Ford is asking. I don't know if it's a price issue or the batteries they use are still the ones that have had fire issues.
Maybe now that they can use the Tesla super chargers more people will want the Fords?
I don't like:
-The Exoskeleton design and its accompanying lack of a crumple zone and dificulty doing any sort of repair.
-The brutalist styling
And I expect them to be a huge success - partially because Musk, for all his faults is a very savvy product guy.
And $39K should cover the down payment nicely.
No Time said:$39k?
Is that the adjusted price assuming you get the full tax credit, and subtracting the cost of fuel that a non-electric truck would use?
I suspect there is some big assumptions that go into that price, but would leave a buyer with a significantly larger initial cost at time of purchase.
That is the suggested retail price. Taxes and transportation will add to that as well as options and model selected.
Tax breaks federal and state ( hint; move to Oregon) Are the buyers.
They are only planning on 600,000 production for this year. But they will all be made in Texas which will be a first for pickup trucks.
One site has a picture of a new smaller sized pickup. But nothing more about it.
Kreb (Forum Supporter) said:I don't like:
-The Exoskeleton design
-The brutalist styling
-The sheer mass
-The stainless finish
And I expect them to be a huge success - partially because Musk, for all his faults is a very savvy product guy.
I'm with you at least on the styling.
But I suspect that with only 600,000 planned for this year it will probably fall behind the model 2 in volume. But I hear they are planning a production run of 100 million.
There are some simple facts.
cyber truck was announced in 2019 for sale in 2020. Its now 2023, and none are being sold.
And the f150 lightning went on sale in 2021, so 2 years of sale, at least, more than the Tesla.
when I hear about them being driven around LA, I'm reminded by the song Razzle Dazzle from Chicago.
nderwater said:Really really curious to see what the actual MSRP ends up being when the truck makes it to market.
Yes the C8 Vette was said to be $50k. It's in the $80k range at the lowest.
only 600,000 ?
that seems like a lot of trucks with 6 months of the year already gone !
In reply to alfadriver :
There appears to be ample evidence that they are seriously ramping up for production. This looks more production ready with the addition of bumpers and such. It was taken in Palo Alto within the last couple of days. Kinda makes me want to go hunting with that silent drivetrain to sneak up on stuff.
In reply to Kreb (Forum Supporter) :
Having worked in the industry for a long time, vehicles like that are more likely to be 1-2 years from production. If it were within a year, there would not be camo on it. Those within a year of production are normally made with the actual production tooling, moreso within 6 months when all of the final sign off tests and drives happen.
That could be wrong, too- Tesla had shown the shape of the truck back in 2019, so there's no real need to camo it, whereas OEM's add "stuff" to the body to disguise how it looks 2-3 years prior to production. It's almost as if the camo is there to attract attention.
I know Musk has touted how slow the auto industry is, but over the last decade, the demonstration why has been made by Tesla more than once.
In reply to alfadriver :
As I mentioned, Musk knows his viral advertising. If there's one think that I like about this is that it might help redefine what's macho in the vehicle market. In the past years it's been an ongoing battle to make it look like there's a 32-liter diesel under the hood instead of a pushrod v8 or turbo 6. Variety is good.
Current reports say production will begin 4th quarter of this year with delivery begining in 2024. We'll see.
In reply to frenchyd :
The pricing is all BS.
The 2022 Ford Lighting was originally "offered" at an entry price of $41,669. I don't believe it was ever actually sold at that price. The 2023 model base price is $58,514. That assumes you can buy a base model truck. They don't appear to be manufacturing any.
The XLT with a standard range battery starts at $66,014. With the extended range battery, it's $82,869. Lariat starts at $76,369. Platinum starts at $97,819. How many base models do you think will be sitting on dealer's lots for sale??
$39K?? Absolutely ZERO chance.
Kreb (Forum Supporter) said:Current reports from Elon Musk say production will begin 4th quarter of this year with delivery begining in 2024. We'll see.
Fixed... Which makes it all-but-meaningless.
Looks like frenchyd has been hitting the kool-aid a bit too hard, since he's actually quoting double of even Optimistic Elon's (over) hyped 1st year production numbers. LOL!
When I bought my 1999.5 Golf, it was impossible to buy one of those at the base price either :) They all had AC...
There have been legit Cybertruck mules running around for a couple of years, mostly around Texas. So there has been some development going on. It's definitely not their most important vehicle, I'd put it under "vanity project for the boss" so it gets shoved behind Gigapress design work and structural batteries and the Highland update for the Model 3 and the little car. As it should.
I'm not going to believe any specs or hype or promises about the truck until they start getting delivered. I'm like that with any upcoming car, but especially a Tesla.
Driven5 said:Kreb (Forum Supporter) said:Current reports from Elon Musk say production will begin 4th quarter of this year with delivery begining in 2024. We'll see.
Fixed... Which makes it all-but-meaningless.
Looks like frenchyd has been hitting the kool-aid a bit too hard, since he's actually 2x-ing the 1st year production numbers that even Optimistic Elon is hyping. LOL!
My theory is that Musk announces stretch goals in public. Want something done in 6 months instead of a year? Tell everyone it'll be done in 3, then the dev team busts their butts and misses the target by 3 months, delivering at 6. That might work internally but it's not something to announce publicly because the public takes it as a promise instead of a goal - which isn't really a surprise. Musk is very good at some stuff like optimizing and building the machine that makes the machines, but understanding people is very much a weak point for him.
We have learned to never, ever give timeframe information on products in development because if you say "3-4 months" you will start getting angry phone calls at 2.5 months asking why it's not available yet...
AClockworkGarage said:Given the muskrat's abysmally low rate of actually delivering on bis promises I imagine the Tesla ponzi scheme will fall apart long before these make it to production.
I don't drink the Tesla cool-aid, but I think we're past the point of calling Tesla a ponzi scheme at this point. The Model Y is the best-selling car in the world right now and still building steam.
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