DD tires for street driving

I am about to find some Summer tires (I use snows in winter for 15k) for the manual 2011 Elantra, they are (about I have to check this) 205/55/16 and the car will do 45K a year on these tires.

The OEM tires blew chunks, literally were chunking apart and when I put on the snows all of them were not round. However they did about 75K before being junk. Hankook Optimos were the OEM tires and they were not great

I want better tire performance on dry or wet roads but with decent wear. However this is not a track car, it is my workhorse and does 1500 miles a week at the posted speed limit.

Thanks

I really liked Kumho SPTs when I had them. Great rain tires.

FSP_ZX2 wrote: I really liked Kumho SPTs when I had them. Great rain tires.

OK, price is good, how did they wear?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho&tireModel=Ecsta+SPT&partnum=055WR6KU31&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Hyundai&autoYear=2011&autoModel=Elantra&autoModClar=GLS

I am interested in purchasing tires soon also 205-70-15

+1 for SPTs, my top recommendation for summer street tires.

Mine didn't get crusty until they were nearly 6 years old, I had tons of events and plenty of aggressive street driving on them and they still weren't totally bald.

Wet grip is very nearly equal to dry grip and I mean that in the best way possible.

If you can still save your winter tires for winter then definitely get summer tires instead of all seasons. I would love to blow money on some super autoX sticky tires and etc but I drive my daily... well daily and I maybe AutoX 4-5 times a year so I can't justify 500 dollars on 15" tires.

I'm currently tempted on this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-NEW-195-55-15-FALKEN-ZIEX-ZE-512-55R-R15-TIRES-/190775881886?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c6b20f09e&vxp=mtr

I'm sure they have them in your size too but the tread looks like and price is certainly right

For that usage, wondering if it might be worth it to step up to tires that come with a treadlife warranty, like maybe this - http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Eagle+F1+Asymmetric+All-Season&partnum=055WR6F1AAS&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

No, I wont get all seasons, or as they are known in my vernacular, "No Seasons"

Kumho SPT - Was the DD and AutoX tire on my E36 325is and M3 for 3 years. Wet weather traction was great!! They wore really well with stock alignment and lasted as well as any other tire when I went to a more aggressive alignment on the 325is. I still have the fronts as spares . Kumho not longer makes it in the size I need for the E36

Fuzion ZRi is what I run on the E36 318is. It was cheap and so far pretty good. They run a little narrow. I picked these as they placed strong in tire comparo done by GRM (can't remember the issue).

Fuzion HRi are the all seasons of the above ZRi. They are decent and came on my E34 530i. They are bricks . They needed to pumped upwards to 38psi cold and heated to oblivion for anything close to sticky.They are decent in just about everything I can throw at them. It did work really good at a HPDE when it rained. Other than that . . .your normal all season bricks.

fidelity101 wrote: If you can still save your winter tires for winter then definitely get summer tires instead of all seasons. I would love to blow money on some super autoX sticky tires and etc but I drive my daily... well daily and I maybe AutoX 4-5 times a year so I can't justify 500 dollars on 15" tires. I'm currently tempted on this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-NEW-195-55-15-FALKEN-ZIEX-ZE-512-55R-R15-TIRES-/190775881886?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c6b20f09e&vxp=mtr I'm sure they have them in your size too but the tread looks like and price is certainly right

No. NO. Just...no.

Ziex 512's are awful, and you won't get 45k out of them. (Unless they've made some biiiiig changes in the last few years since I had a set on my Miata.) They're not that grippy, they're loud, and they SUCK in the wet. The only thing going for them is that they're pretty cheap.

Ziex 912's are quite a bit better in pretty much every respect (had a set of those too) but from what I understand there are better choices out there for similar money.

Aussie, I got around 25K miles on the SPTs--two summers as I recall. They had some life left--maybe were at 4/32 or so when I switched them off.

Two, maybe three, seasons is pretty much all I want/expect on tires--do between 20-25K year total, and run winters from Nov-March.

FSP_ZX2 wrote: Aussie, I got around 25K miles on the SPTs--two summers as I recall. They had some life left--maybe were at 4/32 or so when I switched them off.

Was that regular driving, or spirited with autocross use?

aussiesmg wrote:

FSP_ZX2 wrote: Aussie, I got around 25K miles on the SPTs--two summers as I recall. They had some life left--maybe were at 4/32 or so when I switched them off.

Was that regular driving, or spirited with autocross use?

One auto-x only. I ran in HS "street tire" class in a Mazda6 and beat a known MINI pilot who had XSs on his car.

aussiesmg wrote:

FSP_ZX2 wrote: I really liked Kumho SPTs when I had them. Great rain tires.

OK, price is good, how did they wear? http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho&tireModel=Ecsta+SPT&partnum=055WR6KU31&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Hyundai&autoYear=2011&autoModel=Elantra&autoModClar=GLS

The vette HATED the SPT's. I got 5k miles on a pair of rears and they're on the wear bars.

I'd suggest the new 4X (have them on the SeX) and the have GREAT grip for an A/S tire. not a great deep snow tire, but if you have winter tires already, it doesn't really matter. So far, I've got ~ 7k miles on them and showing no wear at all yet, even though I'm a bit... um... "hard" on them.

Fuzion HRi's I had on the accent. I would put them on par with the Uniroyal Tiger Paw. Wears like iron..... and that is where the compliments stop. Terrible rain tire, medicore in the winter at best. Had minimal dry grip and they were the loudest tire I've ever owned. Switched over to Kumho Platinum LX tires on that car about 13k miles ago and it completely transformed the car. Quiet ride, great grip great wear to date.

I wouldn't recomend Fuzion HRi/ZRi to my worst enemy.

I do attack onramps/offramps pretty hard when the opportunity presents itself...

I got about 27k out of mine from mixed driving (regular and spirited driving, AutoX use, and three HDPEs).

Unless they have changed anything, they do flat spot from sitting stationary for a while.... spirited driving brought then back to round in a few miles.

Strike_Zero wrote: I got about 27k out of mine from mixed driving (regular and spirited driving, AutoX use, and three HDPEs). Unless they have changed anything, they do flat spot from sitting stationary for a while.... spirited driving brought then back to round in a few miles.

I noticed that on cold mornings too...

In reply to Bobzilla:

I thought ZRi is good tire for the price. 4 tires (235-40-17) shipped mounted and balance for less than 4 hundies. Admittedly, they are on a 138hp, 2800lbs 318is

So far, Mrs. Zero and I have put about 20k without any issues.

It was a sad day for me last fall when I discovered Bridgestone had discontinued the Pole Position in the Miata size. Think it was the RE050, but I'm not 100% certain of that now.

I ran what I had down nearly to the cords, searching for another set stored away somewhere in a warehouse.

That tire was remarkable, imo. It stuck very well, handled rain without any trouble, wore like iron, never required a rebalance, and even did well in light snow.

If you can find them in your size, I'd highly recommend them as a non-winter daily driver tire.

I used to run the SPT on the Integra until they stopped making them in my15in size. I was pretty content with them, so I switched to a similar summer tire - the Yoko S.Drive. I've been so happy with them I've been through two sets on the teg and I have them on the MR2 as well. For what I'm looking for, they're a great balance of dry grip, wet behavior, dd comfort, and tread wear. Between daily driving, spirited mountain runs, and 2-3 autocrosses a year they usually last around 25-30K miles. Just like the SPT they're a 300 tread wear IIRC.

Strike_Zero wrote: In reply to Bobzilla: I thought ZRi is good tire for the price. 4 tires (235-40-17) shipped mounted and balance for less than 4 hundies. Admittedly, they are on a 138hp, 2800lbs 318is So far, Mrs. Zero and I have put about 20k without any issues.

In the smaller 14-16 sizes they are terrible. they'll last forever, but if you have them on a car without much sound deadening, they are deafening, especially on concrete.

I've had Cooper CS4s on our RAV4 for the last 68k and have been impressed. The fronts still have 4-5/32s of tread remaining, and the rears have about 3/32nds of tread. Had I done a better job of tire rotation, they'd all be at 4/32nds.

They've been good in the dry, wet, and snow throughout their life, and have an 80k treadwear warranty.

I have Dunlop DZ101s on the MINI and I really like them. They just behave like you think a decent tire should. Fun to corner on but will slip when you want them to, quiet but not silent, seemingly long-lasting, fairly inexpensive. I recommend them, and when the E420 needs tires, I think it'll be a set of those.

I'll throw in bridgestone potenza grids. Price is right, and they're 10X better in every regard than the dunlops that came on the fit, and about $35 less/corner.

In reply to Lugnut:

I enjoyed those too, I had them on my rx7 a few years back. they were not as good as my avons in the rain but they were slow to wear and very predictible. I'm considering those right now for the daily. Torn between the Falken Ziek ZE-512 and the DZ101.

They usually have the DZ101's on sale too.