80sFast
80sFast Reader
11/12/21 5:27 p.m.

Was BSing with a buddy and got taking about the use of adhesives in new car assembly and was wondering what kind of DIY options/uses there are. 
 

Could you use an adhesive to stitch weld a chassis or replace a floor pan? 

TurnerX19
TurnerX19 UltraDork
11/12/21 5:33 p.m.

The same products used in new car assembly are available where ever auto body supplies are sold. The packaging is a siamese twin tube with a disposable mixing nozzle and a twin plunger "caulking gun"

80sFast
80sFast Reader
11/12/21 5:35 p.m.

In reply to TurnerX19 :

What are they typically used for in DIY projects?

P3PPY
P3PPY GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/12/21 8:46 p.m.

Adhesives? Forget DIY -- what are they used for in OE?? 

captdownshift (Forum Supporter)
captdownshift (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/12/21 9:03 p.m.

3M panelbond. Yes you could use it to replace a floorpan, but you would get no benefit in using it to attempt to stitch weld a chassis, as it merely bonds, it wouldn't provide the structural rigidity. 

Apexcarver
Apexcarver UltimaDork
11/13/21 5:31 a.m.

If memory serves, we used hysol in FSAE. Great stuff, not cheap.

93gsxturbo
93gsxturbo UltraDork
11/13/21 8:50 a.m.

If you are on a McBudget you can use Liquid Nails.  

mikeatrpi
mikeatrpi HalfDork
11/13/21 6:15 p.m.

The epoxy eastwood sells seems similar to jb weld.  It worked for my small patch repair project

Apexcarver
Apexcarver UltimaDork
11/14/21 5:44 a.m.

Adhesive guide

 

I'm guilty of being an engineer, I'd look for things like this to decide. A little google fu and the home hobbyist can get the good stuff these days.

Olemiss540
Olemiss540 HalfDork
11/14/21 8:56 a.m.

3M panel bond has been utilized to "repair" e46 m3 rear subframe tearing in multiple accounts. 

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/14/21 9:52 a.m.

I would think it would not be very good for trying to get the effects of stitch welding, because when the OEs do that, they bond the panels together before welding.  (As was explained to me)  Trying to wedge adhesive into an already welded together gap would just give a similar effect as seam sealing.

vwcorvette (Forum Supporter)
vwcorvette (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UberDork
11/14/21 10:06 a.m.

I used the 3m panel bond to cover the hole in my roof after removing the sunroof. Plus rivets every six inches. Could probably pull the rivets now if I wanted.

 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
11/15/21 8:38 a.m.

Hey, we just posted a Classic Motorsports video about this very topic: How to glue on a quarter panel.

 

clshore
clshore Reader
11/15/21 7:01 p.m.

Just like any other joint, you must design it properly for the job it has to do.
For adhesive, the bonded surface area, the types of loading (shear, tension, comprsssion, torsion).
Peel strength, operating environment, temperature, flexure/deformation of the base materials, etc.

Then there is the application process and methodology .

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