Read an article that Dodge is going all electric after 2023. Well actually they said they were done making ICE but they were bringing out some special editions in 2023.
Then Electric? Or out of business?
Read an article that Dodge is going all electric after 2023. Well actually they said they were done making ICE but they were bringing out some special editions in 2023.
Then Electric? Or out of business?
They're not doing ICE-only cars after 2023 but they will do hybrids and EVs. If their customers like smoking rubber this will be quite an upgrade 
That's an important thing people keep overlooking in manufacturer announcements. Saying that all cars will be electrified is not the same as all cars will be pure battery-electric. The Prius has been electrified since the beginning, and how long was it before they were plug-in hybrids? I don't think they ever did a full battery-only version.
19 model years for a modern car platform (LX/LD - Challenger, Charger, Chrysler 300, Magnum). Well played Stellantis, well played..
06HHR (Forum Supporter) said:19 model years for a modern car platform (LX/LD - Challenger, Charger, Chrysler 300, Magnum). Well played Stellantis, well played..
Even funnier when you consider that near the end, the LX Challenger was outselling the new, smaller, lighter Alpha-platform Camaro
Dodge maybe. But not RAM.
Do they even have an all electric outside the fiat compliance cars? Maybe the meant they aren't investing in new ICE engines but will ride out the current engine design? It does seem odd to do a 180 from their loud Smokey burnout persona in one year....
Ram currently offers most trucks with e-Torque, a battery assist, as an option. These same engines (w/o e-Torque) currently power the LX cars. My guess is the two LXs will be outfitted with e-Torque.
Jeep has 4xE already.
The eTorque option is a mild hybrid system that replaces the traditional alternator with a 48-volt battery-powered, belt-drive motor generator that improves performance and efficiency, as well as bolstering towing and payload capacities. It is an available option on the 5.7-liter HEMI V8 and is a standard on the 3.6-liter Pentastar V6.
They've spelled out their strategy
They've also invested a ton of money into an entirely new inline 6 cylinder ICE platform that's planned to take them into the next decade.
Basically, Keith is correct that hybrids and PHEVs will be a significant part of the puzzle over the next few years. At least for North American products.
Didn't know Dodge was still around. Huh...learning something new every day.
In reply to STM317 :
The non-ICE part sounds more general than I would have expected to pair with the abruptness of the dodge announcement but it was a good read about the parent company's goals.
but the article about the new motor was enticing to a person with a 23 year old dodge truck that is about to enter antique status. More power, better economy and lower emissions in what appears to be a very complete packaged unit. Yes please!
NickD said:06HHR (Forum Supporter) said:19 model years for a modern car platform (LX/LD - Challenger, Charger, Chrysler 300, Magnum). Well played Stellantis, well played..
Even funnier when you consider that near the end, the LX Challenger was outselling the new, smaller, lighter Alpha-platform Camaro
Well, when you consider the size of most Americans...
*and the fact that Chevrolet did themselves no favors by being very vague about whether the Camaro would continue or not.
SKJSS (formerly Klayfish) said:Didn't know Dodge was still around. Huh...learning something new every day.
How? You're in insurance. The people that buy them, crash them in amounts approaching Altima levels.
Also note:
There are no more Dodge trucks. Ram is no longer a product line of Dodge. It's a separate brand.
Same thing for Chrysler and Jeep. 4 different brands.
That means they can shuffle around their models and rhetoric for marketing purposes.
In reply to SV reX :
To be fair, the rebadged Fiats (the Dodge fleet that is not Mercedes era) would have to actually run to have internal combustion.
Someone was looking for car investment strategies...... time to short,
Dodge announced their new small CUV last night, the Hornet. Base engine is a plain old 2L turbo ICE (265hp, 295 lb-ft), the premium engine is a 1.3L hybrid (285hp, 383 lb-ft). I guess they meant all new cars after 2023 will have an electrified option, not that everything that leaves the factory will be electrified.
Here's a link to the press release if interested: Dodge Hornet announcement
Appleseed said:SKJSS (formerly Klayfish) said:Didn't know Dodge was still around. Huh...learning something new every day.
How? You're in insurance. The people that buy them, crash them in amounts approaching Altima levels.
Obviously I was being sarcastic. And yes, they are right on par with the Altima. I had an Altima for a rental a few weeks ago, and I was SOOOOO ashamed.
In reply to SKJSS (formerly Klayfish) :
Ashamed that you didn't break every single rules of the road? 
There was a little feature on the NBC nightly news tonight about the demise of the Charger and Challenger. You can probably catch a replay of it on their website.
Dodge announced the full electric Charger Daytona SRT concept replacement for the Challenger today. They didn't give many details about the power train aside from it being an 800V architecture with AWD that will be faster than a Hellcat. It sounds like they know their target market and are going in a different direction than most other electric cars. They put an exhaust system on it to "deliver a performance sound to rivals the SRT Hellcat". There's paddle shifters for the multispeed transmission, and a "push to pass" button for short bursts of extra power. They put a pistol grip shifter in and a "unique jet-fighter-inspired cap that flips up to allow engagement of the start button". It sounds quite a bit different from the minimalist interior trend in most BEVs. I am looking forward to seeing the production version. Here's a link to the press release.
Exhaust??? What the heck are they exhausting?
I think they are exhausting sound.
-chris r.
In reply to Schmidlap :
There's also a "donut mode" so they do know their audience. These will be great a great source of EV retrofit parts once they start hitting CoPart en masse with smashed bodywork.
As a sign of commitment to the traditional values of the brand and the current customer base, Dodge should make a big deal of installing elaborately logoed charging stations at drag strips. Think Tesla Super Charger Station (like at your local grocery store) but with a more billboard/signage presence or something like the current gas stations logo'ed rain canopy.
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