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Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
2/3/22 10:52 a.m.
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Our $2000 Challenge returns for 2022 with a new twist: Now presented by Tire Rack, this year's event will allow cars built without budget limitations to compete directly against cars built within a strict $2000 budget.

Will they prove that money equals speed? Or will our $2000 Challenge competitors show that creativity beats money? We'll find out October 22-23 at …

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eastsideTim
eastsideTim PowerDork
2/3/22 11:24 a.m.

For the unrestricted cars, am I right in assuming we don't need to fill out any of the budget paperwork?  I'm hoping to show up with something under budget, but I have an out of budget back up plan.

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
2/3/22 11:26 a.m.

Yes, that's correct.

frenchyd
frenchyd UltimaDork
2/3/22 11:29 a.m.

In reply to Tom Suddard 

Im going to try to be ready but I won't be there.  That occurs during the peak demand for bus drivers.

    I will try to do a Northern version of the  event.  Perhaps others for whatever reason can do their own localized version, Absentee   ballot if you will.  Or even if they can't do the autocross or drag race  they can send photo's, their 3 minute speech ( 1 page double spaced)  of unique features, how far they got,  plus a copy of the budget?  
 Postmarked or sent by the opening of the event?  
   I'll donate a wooden trophy  for the lamest excuse.  ;-). 

yupididit
yupididit PowerDork
2/3/22 11:32 a.m.

I'd imagine doing a $2000 challenge is even more difficult with the price of everything being so high. 

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
2/3/22 11:32 a.m.

Sorry, but you'll have to attend the $2000 Challenge in order to compete in the $2000 Challenge. Additionally, Grassroots Motorsports will defend our trademark as necessary. 

nocones
nocones GRM+ Memberand UberDork
2/3/22 11:35 a.m.

Can you change Classes after you register?  I'm thinking of GTN$ but may switch to GTU$.  

 

For the unlimited budget cars, I think it would be fun to have the "expectation" be that they put a reasonable estimate of the total build cost on paper.  Clearly not itemized and documented with receipts.  I realize that some people may not want to openly state how much they have into the car and strictly requiring it may be a detriment to participation but I for one think it would be neat knowledge.   

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
2/3/22 11:44 a.m.

In reply to nocones :

Yes, you should be able to make changes at will. If not, I can handle changes from my end, too.

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
2/3/22 12:06 p.m.

Major support from TireRack! 

 

MaxPeedingRods is a new sponsor.  Awesome! 

 

https://2000challenge.com/

SV reX
SV reX MegaDork
2/3/22 12:27 p.m.

I'm seeing lots of explanation of the tire classes, but no distinction between autocross and drag racing. 
 

Do the tire class limitations apply only to autocross, or do the same limits apply to tires worn only on the drag strip?

Andy Neuman
Andy Neuman SuperDork
2/3/22 12:49 p.m.

In reply to SV reX :

I asked in the other thread.

The 200tw is for the whole event. That way 200tw competitors don't need two sets of tires. I think it makes sense. 

Lof8 - Andy
Lof8 - Andy GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/3/22 1:19 p.m.

hmmm, is the "Tire Rack Challenge" taking the place of the extinct "General Tire Challenge?"  :) wishful thinking.

stafford1500
stafford1500 GRM+ Memberand Dork
2/3/22 1:20 p.m.

Personally, i am glad for the clarifications and classing structure.

Expect more sillyness from me using a good platform.

frenchyd
frenchyd UltimaDork
2/3/22 1:56 p.m.
Tom Suddard said:

Sorry, but you'll have to attend the $2000 Challenge in order to compete in the $2000 Challenge. Additionally, Grassroots Motorsports will defend our trademark as necessary. 

I'm sorry.  I was thinking it would help expose GRM to racers.   Not trying to step on anyones toes. 
 I really love the idea of the GRM challenge and would like to  give you exposure but certainly can appreciate  if you'd like to keep it local. 
        Is it OK to use the GRM decal at events other than GRM's challenge? 
       

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/3/22 2:49 p.m.

Now I want to see if I can get my hands on a Plaid for the weekend. It would actually be really interesting to see how it compares to a $2000 car - I suspect it would not win outright. A Z06 would be entertaining but probably slower.

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
2/3/22 2:58 p.m.

"Hello Tesla? Yes I'd like a test drive..."

SV reX
SV reX MegaDork
2/3/22 3:02 p.m.

Are cars competing with no budget eligible for the overall win?

bigben
bigben Reader
2/3/22 4:55 p.m.

Sounds awesome.

How will the addition of the unlimited class affect the number of available runs for the $2000 cars? And Will we have to "share" the pro drivers' time with the unlimited class cars?

Lastly is Maxspeedingrods giving any discounts to challenge competitors? There's turbo I'd like to install at a lower cost to the budget.wink

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
2/3/22 5:24 p.m.

In reply to SV reX :

No.

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
2/3/22 5:24 p.m.

In reply to bigben :

Let me see what I can do there for a discount. And we should still have plenty of track time to go around.

frenchyd
frenchyd UltimaDork
2/4/22 2:27 p.m.

In reply to Tom Suddard :

I've a thought?   What if I were to pay a remote entry fee?  Something to cover your costs but discounted enough to reflect not actually being able to be there?   

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/4/22 2:34 p.m.

In reply to frenchyd :

Dude, just stop.

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
2/4/22 3:05 p.m.

More money probably won't equal more speed but we will definitely see prettier cars going faster.  
 

This concept also allows something I've always wanted to know.  This year I will be bringing an AW11 MR2 powered by its stock 4AGE with giggle gas for the drags.  I could turn it around and bring it back K swapped, 2ZZ swapped or 3SGTE swapped the following year and with caster camber adjustment.....  it'd be really cool to see how much some $$$$ can improve a car at this event.  

In reply to AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) :

I may bring down a pair of BG chassis cars each with a BP. One within budget and one that stretches it. Though I'll readily admit that it's ambitious to think that I'll manage to get the second ready in time and the other improved while within budget. 

admc58
admc58 Reader
2/4/22 3:29 p.m.

Well this sounds fun!!!

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