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Jerry
Jerry UberDork
3/18/18 9:31 p.m.

Every story I see on Facebook now, I can already guess the comment section.  Fiat?  Fix It Again Tony (haven't heard that since 1979).  Mustang?  CarsnCoffee deathmobile.  Camaro?  Mullets.  VW?  CEL or Dieselgate.  Find any article on FB about Miata's that doesn't have hairdresser comments.

Just a minor rant before bedtime.  #getoffmylawn

fasted58
fasted58 MegaDork
3/18/18 9:34 p.m.

I figured FB as soon as I read the thread title.

Might as well add YouTube to that also.

Daylan C
Daylan C SuperDork
3/18/18 9:39 p.m.

There is no escape from this. Every comment section is the same crowd of noisy sheep repeating the same worthless dead jokes and misconceptions.

Any mention of a Windsor will be met with Cleveland comments.

Any LS swap will get complained about.

Any 4l60e will will get 2-3 shift jokes.

Any auto in general will get "man pedal"

any manual trans will somehow get just about as many bad jokes.

Hondas will get lawn mower jokes. 

I could go on but this is getting too long.

Grizz
Grizz UberDork
3/18/18 10:14 p.m.

I still don't get the lawn mower thing. I like honda powered mowers way better than their cars.

Trackmouse
Trackmouse UltraDork
3/18/18 11:08 p.m.

In reply to Grizz :

And if Honda made a variable valve timing mower, it would destroy all mowers for at least a decade until Briggs caught up. 

T.J.
T.J. MegaDork
3/18/18 11:26 p.m.

I refuse Facebook, but I can. Ouch for the general uselessness of most youtube comments. 

mainlandboy
mainlandboy Reader
3/19/18 12:54 a.m.

Also the annoying, played out "that'll buff right out" comment after any picture of a car with excessive damage.

I also never understood the point of someone posting the sole comment "in before the lock" with no other feedback related to the thread. Is this just to mark your territory that you contributed to the thread?

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/19/18 4:39 a.m.

I’d be ok with a Honda mower.  

I like to read the comments section under news stories to feel better about myself as a person.

mazdeuce - Seth
mazdeuce - Seth Mod Squad
3/19/18 6:16 a.m.

And for the love of god, if anyone writes an article about one of your cars any place other than GRM, really really really don't read the comments. 

84FSP
84FSP SuperDork
3/19/18 6:27 a.m.
Grizz said:

I still don't get the lawn mower thing. I like honda powered mowers way better than their cars.

I second this motion.  My Honda mower that starts with me just looking at it was an emberassing source of joy for me after my obsession with a Toro on life support. 

Following the S2000 Honda is dead to me.  I would buy a CRX SI in a heartbeat though...

maschinenbau
maschinenbau GRM+ Memberand Dork
3/19/18 6:53 a.m.

Same for any post involving LeMons or GRM or budget racing in general. I remember when Speedhunters did an article on Georgia Tech Wreck Racing team after building the 2JZ Midget Challenge car. No one on the internet believes you can invest time + energy + smarts instead of money to go fast. Which is too bad, because that's how hot rodding started in the first place. You couldn't just buy go-fast parts from Summit, you had to be creative.

Jerry
Jerry UberDork
3/19/18 6:57 a.m.

Of course I forgot Subaru = flat brim and vape.  Which I own neither of.

volvoclearinghouse
volvoclearinghouse UberDork
3/19/18 6:59 a.m.

Agreed.  It's almost as if the Internet, rather than expanding our minds and creativity, has done precisely the opposite.  

volvoclearinghouse
volvoclearinghouse UberDork
3/19/18 7:00 a.m.
Jerry said:

Of course I forgot Subaru = flat brim and vape.  Which I own neither of.

HOW MANY HED CASKETS HAVE U CHANGGED IN THE LAS MONTH, BRO?

DeadSkunk
DeadSkunk UberDork
3/19/18 7:27 a.m.
maschinenbau said:

Same for any post involving LeMons or GRM or budget racing in general. I remember when Speedhunters did an article on Georgia Tech Wreck Racing team after building the 2JZ Midget Challenge car. No one on the internet believes you can invest time + energy + smarts instead of money to go fast. Which is too bad, because that's how hot rodding started in the first place. You couldn't just buy go-fast parts from Summit, you had to be creative.

I've actually overheard guys walking around at the Challenge muttering about how "there's no way that was built for $2000". They were spectators, not competitors. The good news is I've seen them at a second Challenge, so maybe they get it now.

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
3/19/18 7:36 a.m.
DeadSkunk said:
maschinenbau said:

Same for any post involving LeMons or GRM or budget racing in general. I remember when Speedhunters did an article on Georgia Tech Wreck Racing team after building the 2JZ Midget Challenge car. No one on the internet believes you can invest time + energy + smarts instead of money to go fast. Which is too bad, because that's how hot rodding started in the first place. You couldn't just buy go-fast parts from Summit, you had to be creative.

I've actually overheard guys walking around at the Challenge muttering about how "there's no way that was built for $2000". They were spectators, not competitors. The good news is I've seen them at a second Challenge, so maybe they get it now.

That's happened since the dawn of the Challenge.  Including from other competitors.  Not sure why that's a shock.

It is sad, though, that people down play effort, good planning, and good scrounging.  It's one of the reasons I stopped paying attention to the miata.net autocross group.  All of them are convinced that the minimum price for a trophy SP miata is $20k.  That thinking drove me nuts.  They must see F1 and figure it's just money thrown at it- when it's actually money thrown at tremendous effort.

Suprf1y
Suprf1y PowerDork
3/19/18 7:51 a.m.
mainlandboy said:

 

I also never understood the point of someone posting the sole comment "in before the lock" with no other feedback related to the thread. Is this just to mark your territory that you contributed to the thread?

No. It's a polite way of saying if you don't stop acting like a douchebag this thread is going to get locked.

Most of the comments mentioned can also be found on this forum on a regular basis

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/19/18 8:36 a.m.

I thought this thread would be about YouTube. I do my part by disabling comments for my videos.

dculberson
dculberson UltimaDork
3/19/18 9:07 a.m.
GameboyRMH said:

I thought this thread would be about YouTube. I do my part by disabling comments for my videos.

You're a good man.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/19/18 9:26 a.m.

Facebook can be bad, but can be good. It all depends on how much participation there is from the posting entity.

Instagram is basically 13 year old boys posting knee-jerk responses, but can be okay once you get past the inherent lack of any conversational flow.

YouTube is terrible, probably because of anonymous user names.

Comments on articles posted to a local newspaper website, however, are the absolute nadir of online commentary. It's astounding. It makes you want to move on principle.

 

KyAllroad (Jeremy)
KyAllroad (Jeremy) PowerDork
3/19/18 9:29 a.m.

In reply to alfadriver :

Actually the SP prep for a Miata is probably close.  I was as frugal an humanly possible and got my '97 to mid/low-pack CSP for around $7,000.  Getting to true mid-pack would have been another $5,000 and then to reach podium level I'd have been looking at another $10,000.  There just aren't real alternatives for most of the really pointy end things you have to address in a full on build.

That said, I'd love to be proven wrong.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
3/19/18 9:42 a.m.

My FR-S is underpowered. Apparently. 

edizzle89
edizzle89 Dork
3/19/18 9:46 a.m.
Jerry said:

 Fiat?  Fix It Again Tony (haven't heard that since 1979)

 

stuart in mn
stuart in mn UltimaDork
3/19/18 9:53 a.m.
Suprf1y said:
mainlandboy said:

 

I also never understood the point of someone posting the sole comment "in before the lock" with no other feedback related to the thread. Is this just to mark your territory that you contributed to the thread?

No. It's a polite way of saying if you don't stop acting like a douchebag this thread is going to get locked.

Most of the comments mentioned can also be found on this forum on a regular basis

On some other forums that I frequent there are a few people who seem to think it's really clever to post IBTL in most any thread, along with "It'll buff out" and "Fix it again Tony" and all the other lame responses mentioned.  Yeah, like we never heard those jokes before.

One other one that should be permanently retired is the Lucas prince of darkness response about any British car, whether it has electrical problems or not.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy UltimaDork
3/19/18 9:55 a.m.
KyAllroad (Jeremy) said:

In reply to alfadriver :

Actually the SP prep for a Miata is probably close.  I was as frugal an humanly possible and got my '97 to mid/low-pack CSP for around $7,000.  Getting to true mid-pack would have been another $5,000 and then to reach podium level I'd have been looking at another $10,000.  There just aren't real alternatives for most of the really pointy end things you have to address in a full on build.

That said, I'd love to be proven wrong.

Robert Yates said something like, " Anybody can go buy the parts from Ford and build a 700 hp Cup motor.  Its the guy that does all the rubbin' and thinkin' that gets 730 horses."  Rubbin and thinkin takes money, but in amateur racing, I think money generally doesn't buy the right rubbin and thinkin.  So, skill beats money, I hope. Except in tires.  All the rubbin and thinkin in the world won't win on the wrong tires.

I am dragging this way off topic...  On topic, if people just didn't react to the trolls, maybe they would climb back under their bridge?  I find that very hard to do, unless its super obvious the poster is just looking to raise E36 M3.  I can be that guy in the comic strip that says, "I can't come to bed.  Someone on the internet is wrong!"

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