Drove the new Mustang today.

Bobzilla wrote: Just priced the ecoboost coupe with performance package out at $27,990 in white. Yummy.

This sounds like a bargain.

ultraclyde wrote: I can't wait to see a few of these, but I doubt there's anything there that will make me trade in my 05 since it's paid for. I heard a figure for a V8 GT performance pack car pushing $46k - which is just too much for my consideration. Of course, that was optioned up I'm sure, but wow. I hope that's not an accurate report.

No GT can go for that much, no one will buy it. The Boss 302 cost that much.

Harvey wrote:

ultraclyde wrote: I can't wait to see a few of these, but I doubt there's anything there that will make me trade in my 05 since it's paid for. I heard a figure for a V8 GT performance pack car pushing $46k - which is just too much for my consideration. Of course, that was optioned up I'm sure, but wow. I hope that's not an accurate report.

No GT can go for that much, no one will buy it. The Boss 302 cost that much.

Guys, the configurator is up, go see for yourselves.

A premium with EVERY option will get that high. And there is no BOSS 302 for this generation.

Next year there is supposed to be a GT350. From the speculation I've read, a 5.2 flat-plane crank V8 making north of 500hp N/A.

So the base Ecoboost car comes with 17 inch wheels. The tallest tire I can find that comes stock is in the range of 27.8 inches. Fairly agressive AT tires are available at a height of 30 inches that fit a 17 inch rim. I'm not saying someone should buy one of these and try to win SR at rallycross nationals next year, but I'm not NOT saying it either.

In reply to z31maniac: I would rank any speculation involving flat plane crank Mustangs right up there with mid-engine Corvettes.

Driving through the Angeles National Forest, and about an hour ago, I think I saw one of the '15 mustangs going the other way. Tim, was one of the testers red?

z31maniac wrote:

Harvey wrote:

ultraclyde wrote: I can't wait to see a few of these, but I doubt there's anything there that will make me trade in my 05 since it's paid for. I heard a figure for a V8 GT performance pack car pushing $46k - which is just too much for my consideration. Of course, that was optioned up I'm sure, but wow. I hope that's not an accurate report.

No GT can go for that much, no one will buy it. The Boss 302 cost that much.

Guys, the configurator is up, go see for yourselves. A premium with EVERY option will get that high. And there is no BOSS 302 for this generation. Next year there is supposed to be a GT350. From the speculation I've read, a 5.2 flat-plane crank V8 making north of 500hp N/A.

Okay, given, but who options these cars with everything? Everything includes a lot of frivolous junk. He was talking about a v8 GT performance package car, which you can have for $36k MSRP, which means later after the shine has worn off you can have it for $35k or less.

GRM, if this post is a conflict of interest, let me know.

So, I get to the end of the forest, and my options were to get on I-10 back or double back through the mountains.

The choice was pretty obvious.

Look what I saw on the way back, an Ecoboost with the performance pack:

A professional photographer was working, so I stayed out of the way. Talked to a few engineers, and they were obviously very excited about the car. I cannot wait to try it out. Despite its weight disadvantage, I think that this will definitely serve as competition to the Frisbee cars. It is a very good looking car; it's elongated profile almost reminds me of Aston Martins without actually looking like one.

In reply to Mitchell:

AH HA!!! So Ford did steal Astons designs!!! I knew it

Mitchell wrote: GRM, if this post is a conflict of interest, let me know. So, I get to the end of the forest, and my options were to get on I-10 back or double back through the mountains. The choice was pretty obvious. Look what I saw on the way back, an Ecoboost with the performance pack: A professional photographer was working, so I stayed out of the way. Talked to a few engineers, and they were obviously very excited about the car. I cannot wait to try it out. Despite its weight disadvantage, I think that this will definitely serve as competition to the Frisbee cars. It is a very good looking car; it's elongated profile almost reminds me of Aston Martins without actually looking like one.

God that is gorgeous, and in the right color combo too!

http://bp3.ford.com/2015-Ford-Mustang?branding=1&lang=en#/ChooseYourPath/

Just trying to help...

I'm looking forward to see Guards green in person. The car I built came in just under $30K with the Ecoboost Performance package and the Recaro seat option. My guess is dealers will be raping early buyers, but by the end of '15 you may get discounts.

The only one I've driven so far is a V8 Auto, but I love it. I only got to do about 10 miles, but bumpy corner exit and traction is light years beyond the old (and very good) live axle. The flappy paddle for the auto worked great, but it will take some mental adjustment to not keep running out of revs. I think I'd get an auto with the V8 as I'm just tired of clutch in, clutch out, clutch in rinse repeat on Southfield Freeway. Oh and the noise, oh my, the noise, what a glorious noise it makes.

In reply to Adrian_Thompson:

Could you expand a little on the flappy paddle? Like when does it and does it not give full control to the driver?

In reply to Mitchell:

Nice pics! That is a good looking car.

bravenrace wrote: In reply to Adrian_Thompson: Could you expand a little on the flappy paddle? Like when does it and does it not give full control to the driver?

Disclaimer. I am not a power train engineer and I have not spent that long in the car. What I noticed was this:

In ‘D’ it drivel like a modern auto, which is to say very very well. If you know you’re coming up to a corner and are in ‘D’ you can pull the left hand paddle (down shift) and as long as you’re not trying to over rev the engine it will down shift for you. It will then stay in that gear until it decides you need to change, or after a period of time without touching the paddle it will return to normal auto mode.

In ‘S’ it drives like an auto still, but with more aggressive mapping. That is until you use either the ‘up’ (right) or ‘down’ paddle, then it will go into full manual control and will stay there until you select D gain. It will shift when, and only when you tell it unless you are trying to do something dumb or dangerous. i.e. if you’re already at 6,000rpm it won’t let you down shift, conversely if you are lugging along at 900rpm it won’t upshift. It will then hold whatever gear you are in until you shift. So if you are at the rev limiter in 3rd it will stay there until you pull back for 4th. I don’t know if you sat there for 5 or 10 seconds on the rev limiter if it would override and change, because never did it intentionally, I was just caught out by the acceleration and was too slow with my fingers. I don’t know, but I assume if you try and coast to a stop in say 4th gear it would down shift for you once you got to a minimum rev point, but I didn’t try that so I can’t say for sure. As you’d expect all shifts are faster and smoother than any mortal could manage with a regular manual transmission.

In reply to Adrian_Thompson:

I'll admit that sounds impressive. Not sure it'd be impressive enough for me to get one, but impressive. For me, it's still not a matter of absolute performance and more of just liking the feeling of interaction with the car. Plus, computer controlled transmissions scare the bejesus out of me on the maintenance/repair side.

But I'll admit if I was buying the car purely for performance potential, then a flappy-paddle auto would be considered.

Is the flappy paddle a manually shifted automatic, or is it a DCT?

In reply to Ian F:

Its manual control of a regular auto box not dsg, CVT or other type of box.

I want an ecoboost in the worst way. Can't wait for them to become available!

Make mine a 6 speed manual, Coyote, Recaros with the performance pack

Adrian_Thompson wrote: In reply to Ian F: Its manual control of a regular auto box not dsg, CVT or other type of box.

There's still going to be a computer and a whole bunch of sensors involved. I don't care how well they work, I just don't like the complexity of modern automatics for long-term ownership, flappy paddles or whatever.

In reply to Adrian_Thompson:

Did you happen to notice whether or not the torque converter would unlock in 'manual' mode?

aussiesmg wrote: Make mine a 6 speed manual, Coyote, Recaros with the performance pack

Yep, this is exactly how I would spec mine.

z31maniac wrote:

aussiesmg wrote: Make mine a 6 speed manual, Coyote, Recaros with the performance pack

Yep, this is exactly how I would spec mine.

yup. I just built that car on the site and it was just over $37k. Only options were the go fast goods and the recaros, but it does have SYNC and all that stuff standard, so it's not like it's a stripper model.

OTOH, my '05 had every option except the auto trans, big subwoofer, and blingy wheels and it stickered for $29k when I bought it new. Red leather, premium dash, upgraded audio, side airbags, even the wheel locks. Inflation's a bitch.

EDIT: Interestingly, I built an Ecoboost with the PP and Recaros for $29k. The Eco PP includes a 3.55 LSD rear but the GT PP gets a 3.71 Torsen rear instead, plus an additional shock tower brace. Wonder who you'd have to choke to get the Torsen on the Booster car?

In the previous cars the regular cars got an LSD (clutch type?) And the track pack cars got a Torsen. Is it the same on this generation?