fastEddie
fastEddie SuperDork
5/3/11 11:01 a.m.

Run away or enjoy quirky quasi-Swedish turbo goodness?

Mainly looking at 9-3 in 1999-2002(?) Viggen trim and later 2005+ models in Aero (turbo 4 and v6) trim, manual transmission.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
5/3/11 11:08 a.m.

I don't think the V6 is that great, heard stories of sludge, but have no personal experience.

The Viggens are awesome.

fastEddie
fastEddie SuperDork
5/3/11 11:22 a.m.

Hmm, apparently the turbo V6 is a GM design - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_High_Feature_engine#LP1

mtn
mtn SuperDork
5/3/11 11:22 a.m.

I'm not aware of the sludge in the 9-3... IIRC (and I could be very mistaken), the sludge was only in the 2.3 litre with the 9-5.

I'd avoid the 6, from what I've heard it isn't that great.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
5/3/11 11:23 a.m.

99 should be the last year for the T5 injection.. model least known for sludging and the model most able to be modded by programming.

A BIG leap forwards from the NG900 that proceeded it. Stay away from Viggen Verts.. too flexy

fastEddie
fastEddie SuperDork
5/3/11 11:29 a.m.

Eh, Viggens are apparently like hen's teeth around here but I'm keeping my eyes open.

I found an '06 Aero combi with the turbo v6 and a 5-spd - that's the main reason I'm asking. Also looking at sedans though.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
5/3/11 11:34 a.m.
fastEddie wrote: Eh, Viggens are apparently like hen's teeth around here but I'm keeping my eyes open. I found an '06 Aero combi with the turbo v6 and a 5-spd - that's the main reason I'm asking. Also looking at sedans though.

99-ish 4-door 9-3 Turbo is also one to look for. Near-Viggen performance without the rarity or price premium. Had the "H.O." motor.

dogbreath
dogbreath New Reader
5/3/11 11:46 a.m.

Do the 'steering rack brace.' :D

Rusted_Busted_Spit
Rusted_Busted_Spit GRM+ Memberand Dork
5/3/11 11:59 a.m.
dogbreath wrote: Do the 'steering rack brace.' :D

VERY good info there. Viggens are rare everywhere but they are around. All Viggens are T7 cars, check for sludge. As far as the new Gen 9-3, all the motors are GM. The 4 is an Ecotec of some sort and the V6 is Aussie I think. Both are supposed to have been very much massaged by SAAB but I will tell you that my Dad's 05 9-5 vert gets worse gas mileage than my old 99 9-3 (the old 9-3 had more power too) but I would think that you should be able to up the power in the newer 9-3s just like you can in the Sky\Solstice.

Being a SAAB guy I would go for the 4 but thats just me. Take one of each out and tell us what you think.

On a side note the car HalfTrack is talking about would be a 99 9-3 SE with a 5 speed. With that car you got the T5 management system (easier to mod) with the same IC and turbo found in the Viggen, good for 208hp and 210tq stock. The nice thing is that with about $100 in parts you can make 1st gear useless at WOT and 2nd scary.

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