NorseDave
NorseDave Reader
9/17/18 11:55 a.m.

Does such a beast exist?  If not, why not (other than the massive amount of effort)?

 

What I'm thinking is a database where you could look up a specific part - let's say an '01 Corvette fuel injector - and find the exact mfr part numbers for the pins, the housing, the seals, etc.  For something as simple as my example, there are lots of places where you can find a connector kit for a EV1 injectors.  But the kits are usually considerably more expensive than if you were to go to Digikey, Mouser, etc and source the individual components yourself.  In fact, you can often get a free sample from the mfr.  In both cases, though, you've got to know the precise part numbers of each.  And "EV1" is not it.  (FYI, those are TE's Junior Power Timer series, but even that is just the start of the wormhole).   

 

As I wade further into my Microsquirt project and start sourcing various sensors from all across the junkyard, trying to determine the individual connectors has become the most time-consuming task, particularly if you end up grabbing something that is a good fit physically, but is not from a popular car/engine.  I always grab the mating connector and a short pigtail with anything from the JY, and it's usually not too hard to find a new pigtail online, but I really don't want to do that when I'm building the harness. 

 

Thoughts?  

 

 

 

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/17/18 12:02 p.m.

If there is one I want to know about it. I get a number of questions about that at work but have not been able to find any reference that lists what parts to use. 

GTXVette
GTXVette SuperDork
9/17/18 12:06 p.m.

not much help here but, I once found a page of weatherpak/Delco connectors online, it told how many wires but not what they connect to.the wires are easeley removed and terminals are easy to install, just small.

camaroz1985
camaroz1985 HalfDork
9/18/18 8:43 a.m.

You could browse manufacturers catalogs.  I would start with AMP/Tyco Electronics/TE Connectivity, Delphi, Molex, Yazaki.  You will find that on more modern vehicles there are shared interfaces so many manufacturers will make connectors that work for that particular arrangement.  Unfortunately you will probably only find general release connectors in the catalogs.  If it is a connector unique to a manufacturer it will not be in catalogs, and in many cases the tooling is funded by the OEM so you will not find components on Digikey, etc.

Most terminals you will also find many cavity compatible terminals for a particular connector from all of the above manufacturers as well as Sumitomo, and JST.

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt PowerDork
9/18/18 8:48 a.m.

Alldata lists the part numbers for the connectors used in most GM products from the '90s or later. Downside is that they don't track if connectors were superceded or discontinued. Not all manufacturers were as helpful with their connectors as GM, though.

NorseDave
NorseDave Reader
9/18/18 1:12 p.m.
camaroz1985 said:

You could browse manufacturers catalogs....  Unfortunately you will probably only find general release connectors in the catalogs.  If it is a connector unique to a manufacturer it will not be in catalogs, and in many cases the tooling is funded by the OEM so you will not find components on Digikey, etc.

Most terminals you will also find many cavity compatible terminals for a particular connector from all of the above manufacturers as well as Sumitomo, and JST.

Yes, have done that way too much in the last couple of days.  Picking out all the 3-pos connectors on Mouser, then going through the thumbnail pics to find any that look in the ballpark, then looking closer, repeat ad nauseum.  

I had not thought about the proprietary possibility.  FWIW, my current connector of interest is for a TPS off a '02 Ford Taurus.  My research thus far suggests they put this basic TPS on like 8 bajillion vehicles, from Fusions to Rangers to Super Duty's.  And I can find tons of pigtails online with the correct connector, pre-crimped.  So it seems somewhat odd that I can't find the actual connector.  I was just hoping to avoid going that route and then adding an additional connector of my own choice at the other end of the pigtail.  But that seems like what I might have to do in this case.  

I've looked through all the ones mentioned and no luck so far.  If anyone is a connector ID wizard, the TPS looks like this:

and the mating connector (what I'm looking for) is this:

 

 

NorseDave
NorseDave Reader
9/18/18 1:14 p.m.
MadScientistMatt said:

Alldata lists the part numbers for the connectors used in most GM products from the '90s or later. Downside is that they don't track if connectors were superceded or discontinued. Not all manufacturers were as helpful with their connectors as GM, though.

That is useful to know.  Usually the mfr (like TE) will indicate if a part # is obsolete and what has superseded it.  

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