ManhattanM (fka NY535iManual)
ManhattanM (fka NY535iManual) Reader
12/20/18 3:44 p.m.

At $3500, assuming it runs and drives, is this close to cheap enough to be a can't lose proposition?

RX8

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/20/18 3:47 p.m.

"Efficient rotary engine"? Has the seller actually driven the thing?

Not a bad price if it's all there and working, assuming there isn't a lot of rust. Even my Southwestern RX8 had a bit of rust, so I don't really want to know what one from NYC looks like.

dclafleur
dclafleur New Reader
12/20/18 4:06 p.m.
BoxheadTim said:

"Efficient rotary engine"? Has the seller actually driven the thing?

Not a bad price if it's all there and working, assuming there isn't a lot of rust. Even my Southwestern RX8 had a bit of rust, so I don't really want to know what one from NYC looks like.

I believe the seller must be using efficiency in terms of how long it takes to burn fuel, no reason to wait a long time between fill-ups!  It seems like a decent price at $3500 if it's all there, starts and drives.

PHAN
PHAN New Reader
12/20/18 5:40 p.m.

Having personally owned multiple RX-8's on and off, I'm now convinced the only way to own one is to buy one with a dead engine.

A "dead" RX8 can be had from $500-1500, all day long. You may have to travel a bit further than you like but you can definitely find one in that price range without much shopping.

Price of a rebuilt Renesis engine can be as low as 2500 upward to 10k, but usually a 2,500 rebuild can be just fine. No affiliation but many have used a rebuild from this shop with mostly positive reviews. 

http://ojimports.com/services/engine-rebuilds/

Yes, you do have to do an engine swap but it should be extremely easy to do since it was made to fit there. 

So you can get away with owning an RX8 with a fresh motor from 3.5k-5k. Not worth buying one at that price with a sketchy engine. 

TurnerX19
TurnerX19 New Reader
12/20/18 5:49 p.m.

And no picture of the "small" dent on passenger side. Phan makes a very good point about the engine too, 140,000 miles? Time for engine #3?

Snrub
Snrub HalfDork
12/21/18 12:38 a.m.

The RX-8 is a great car, but the price is too high if the engine is original. If you're looking at a RX-8, check how the hot starts are, it usually gives some indication of the shape of the engine. Upgraded starter is code for low compression.

ManhattanM (fka NY535iManual)
ManhattanM (fka NY535iManual) Reader
12/21/18 8:46 a.m.

Thanks all.  My basic assumption is that at this # of miles a running RX8 kind of has to be on at least its second engine.  I won't be able to go see this one until after Jan 1.  If its still available I can evaluate the "dent" and condition.  Because of my house setup, and lack of trailer/tow pig, getting a car that can move under its own power is a bit of a gating item, but I understand why getting basically a roller is a better financial choice.

WonkoTheSane
WonkoTheSane GRM+ Memberand Dork
12/21/18 10:33 a.m.
ManhattanM (fka NY535iManual) said:

Thanks all.  My basic assumption is that at this # of miles a running RX8 kind of has to be on at least its second engine.  I won't be able to go see this one until after Jan 1.  If its still available I can evaluate the "dent" and condition.  Because of my house setup, and lack of trailer/tow pig, getting a car that can move under its own power is a bit of a gating item, but I understand why getting basically a roller is a better financial choice.

The good news is that as long as you can get the car started, there's a good chance you can drive it home, even if there's low compression or a torn oil seal.  You may just fumigate the neighborhood in the case of the latter :)

PHAN
PHAN New Reader
12/21/18 1:34 p.m.

I can't recommend enough that even if you have a logistical problem with taking home a rolling shell and performing an engine swap, go ahead and buy the roller anyways. If an RX-8 IS what you want.

Perhaps you can find a shop that is willing to have the roller sit there while they swap in a rebuilt motor. Sure, there'll be additional costs but the worst part of RX-8 ownership for myself and many others, is buying one that is running just to have it not run a couple months down the line. Then you're stuck with a very pretty paperweight and you're still going to be out a couple more thousand if you want to get it running again.

Getting a rebuilt engine in there yourself will guarantee you'll at least be able to drive it during the time of ownership without having to worry about the engine crapping out on you. They're fine when they're maintained properly, but once the damage is done, you can't seafoam the compression back into the engine. At least not to the point where it'll make a huge difference. 

These cars drive better than their price would suggest, I wouldn't mind spending upward to 6k to have one that is SOLID. Compared to other similar cars, FRS/S2000, an RX8 is an absolute bargain. 

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