Evo X vs 335i XDrive

I just noticed something: in Canuckland, a fully loaded Evoooooooo is worth the same amount as a fully loaded 335i XDrive ($55k).

Who in their right mind would pay that much for an Evo when you can get a BMW with similiar performance characteristics for the same price (in a car with much higher quality EVERYTHING). I just can't fathom spending $50+k on a friekin' Mitsubishi (it'd be like spending $40k on a Hyundai)!

Which would you purchase and why? (mental masturbation topic) Obviously, the Evo wins at modifiable performance gains/racing outright/potential hp, but for the average car person who goes to track days and has a family, the BMW seems to hit the mark.

If I could ever afford either (assuming I could only pick those two cars), I'd never use it as a daily-driver, so it would be a track day/autocross/weekend car, so I'd get the evo.

rather buy a nismo 370z and be faster than either. the end
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How about $58k on a Hyundai ?

HiTempguy wrote: but for the average car person who goes to track days and has a family, the BMW seems to hit the mark.

People with families can't drive an Evo?

irish44j wrote: People with families can't drive an Evo?

Absolutely, but the question is "why"? I fail to see how the Evo in any category would be better. Now, if the Evo (fully loaded) was ~$40k, I'd understand.

Now, if the Evo (fully loaded) was ~$40k, I'd understand.

Im pretty sure it is (here) so the real question is what's canadia's problem?

Vigo wrote:

Now, if the Evo (fully loaded) was ~$40k, I'd understand.

Im pretty sure it is (here) so the real question is what's canadia's problem?

All of our cars are more expensive. So, in the case of the good ol' US of A, make that fully loaded Evo $30-$35k instead of $40k and it'd make sense.

Ya dig?

Sure, but im pretty sure a loaded 335iX is still $55k here..

Vigo wrote: Sure, but im pretty sure a loaded 335iX is still $55k here..

When I say loaded, I mean comparably equipped to a Evo X. And its still about $10k cheaper in the USA compared to Canuckland.

Actually I had the experience of autox-ing one fairly recently. Ofcourse I expected an amazingly equipped behemoth that was an absolute pig, particularly during a very wet slush autox. I was pleasantly surprised.

While having a heated leather steering wheel might seem borderline obnoxious to a guy who is used to cars that are very willing to kill you, whether through snap oversteer or simply by shaking your body raw with vibrations from stiff engine mounts and springs, I was surprised by the ferocity of this bone stock car. I believe the example was an '08x on the new, very suited to the rain, contisport 3s. The acceleration was vicious, the cornering unbelievable and braking was average. I believe the car ended up in top ten raw times. The poise of this car, despite the weight, was what I was most surprised with. Despite the weight, very poor weather conditions (slush was present), and very present body roll, the available grip was surprisingly great.

I could only imagine what the Evo would feel like in a similiar situation. However, had I had to compromise I would prefer the day to day manners of the Bavarian Beast with 8/10 (suspected) performance of the Evo. Ofcourse I would still have a bone jarring dedicated track rat

If I had to settle for one car...well Im still young and engaged in racing often, so if I suspect the Evo could get me another 2/10s, it would be the Evo. However, the fit and finish of the BMW was amazing. Comfort, speed and great driving dynamics with very few compromises. Other things to consider: if you can afford to buy the car, can you afford to keep it? What would the comperative maintenance costs be?

Vigo wrote:

Now, if the Evo (fully loaded) was ~$40k, I'd understand.

Im pretty sure it is (here) so the real question is what's canadia's problem?

The car companies have been bending us over for a long time. Our dollar is virtually at par, but they have not adjusted their Canadian pricing since almost back when our dollar was worth 67 cents US.

An STi in the US is about $35K - Canada - $45K.

Subaru is not the only one. Every company out there hoses us. Lots of Canadians buy cars in the US, but many manufacturers refuse warranty if you do.

When I say loaded, I mean comparably equipped to a Evo X. And its still about $10k cheaper in the USA compared to Canuckland.

Oh ok, well that explains why when i built a 335iX on bmw's site last night, it went over 60k... i dont know what options an evo has.

Sounds like if you can get a 335i X for $55k that might be one of the few cars you arent suffering a huge markup on vs usa pricing.

HiTempguy wrote: I just noticed something: in Canuckland, a fully loaded Evoooooooo is worth the same amount as a fully loaded 335i XDrive ($55k). Who in their right mind would pay that much for an Evo when you can get a BMW with similiar performance characteristics for the same price (in a car with much higher quality EVERYTHING). I just can't fathom spending $50+k on a friekin' Mitsubishi (it'd be like spending $40k on a Hyundai)! Which would you purchase and why? (mental masturbation topic) Obviously, the Evo wins at modifiable performance gains/racing outright/potential hp, but for the average car person who goes to track days and has a family, the BMW seems to hit the mark.

I am pretty much in the same boat here. however i have noticed a slight difference in price, the MSRP of the bmw 335i xdrive is the same as the evo mr. the Evo MR is fully loaded, nothing more can be put in and its automatic transmission, which is what im looking for (yes i know theres haters, but it's what i want).

For the BMW 335i xdrive - i have priced out on the website an extra $10,000 to add the options that the evo has and that's because you cant pick individual options, you have to add packages, which is a downside. the options were: automatic transmission $1700 (5200 for automatic with M package), SIRIUS $3900 executive package, navigation package $2000.

so the BMW is about $10 000 more, but is it really $10, 000 more car or is that just for the name and the 'refinedness' ?

from what i understand and correct me if im wrong, but i read that BMWs come included with 4 year no charge maintenance - so if im right then maintenance cost is irrelevant. but what will cost more is repairing the vehicle

so just to reiterate the OP's question - is the bmw really worth it? does it perform that much better then the EVO? which is faster?

personally for me i want kind of like a performance winter sedan, i too live in canada and i am currently driving a subaru impreza at 170 hp/tq and its slow as poop on a sunny day. but i dont have any plans to take a car to the track which may have you thinking 'then why do you want a performance car' and the answer to put it bluntly because i just do, im a single bachelor and you have all been there before im sure.

How about a Ferrari 308 and a Mazda 3/6 for about the same price.

Yeah, the current set of EVO, WRX and STI are overpriced for what they are. Then again, so are the BMWs. Just not as badly over priced...

nope never been a single bachelor. but i did have a s15 blazer lowered 4x4 that was my winter driver with a lt1 in her

for some reason.. and this is coming from a guy who had a couple of Hyundais.. Mitsu's never did anything for me. I would take a suby over a Mitsu.. and the BMW over both.

That said.. I have never driven an Evo X, STi, or a 335

but on topic for a dd id take the 335 but if i was racing hands down the evo. and people are paying over 60k for the new hyundai and its a damn bargain!!!!!

If I spend $60k on a car, it's gonna be a hell of a lot cooler than just a hopped up 3-series or Mitsu sedan. It would be a hopped up American sedan! (CTS-V!)

If I was spending 60k on a car, it would be a 15-20k 80's 911, a 25-30k Elise, and a E39 M5 or CTS-V if the first two are particularly well bought.

I second the 911.. 60K will get you a nice One

$60k will get you a base cayman.

im looking for more a new car for around $60k with awd and automatic.

cant drive manual and dont want to so that puts out the STI even though i do love the look of the 4door with wing. and from what i understand the evo x performs better then the sti. faster acceleration and tighter handling. I have noticed in my impreza and have heard from many other that the subaru has weird handling ie softer.

i do love the stats on the cts-v however i wont be able to drive in the winter. im looking for an all season performance car thats why i lean towards the rally machines like the subaru and mitsu. and i have heard to stay away from Audi.

get some snow tires and drive the ctsv. if i can make it through a winter in rochester ny in a mustang with drag radials on the rear and drive a miata through a winter in laramie wyoming anything is possible.

KATYB wrote: get some snow tires and drive the ctsv. if i can make it through a winter in rochester ny in a mustang with drag radials on the rear and drive a miata through a winter in laramie wyoming anything is possible.

Seriously - I did a half dozen upstate NY winters in my Camaro. It's driver and tire. Get what you want unless you're plowing or going over narrow uphill climbs in the mountains of Colorado or something.