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te72
te72 HalfDork
12/19/24 11:44 p.m.
Keith Tanner said: ...but of course now I'm wondering about a 917K-style short tail showing off all the sexy mechanical bits to *everyone* behind.

Fixed that for ya Keith. =D

Woody (Forum Supportum)
Woody (Forum Supportum) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/20/24 9:32 a.m.

I feel like I'm seeing some Jaguar XJ13 and Ferrari Triposti in the design... neither of which is a bad thing. 

Driven5
Driven5 PowerDork
12/20/24 10:04 a.m.

I'm not sure if it's the difference between design and production, the difference between renderings and photos, or some combination there of, but I feel like there are subtle differences between the white rendered car and black produced car that cause the white one to look slightly but noticeably better.

Minor quibbles aside, I really like the look and general concept of the car.

Mark665
Mark665 GRM+ Memberand New Reader
12/20/24 3:55 p.m.

In reply to Keith Tanner :

I have seen it on the scales, the weight claims are 100% real.

We have one of their Cardinals, and the street registration was really easy, wouldn't see why this would be any different.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/20/24 4:50 p.m.

In reply to Mark665 :

Did you buy your Cardinal fully assembled or as a roller without a drivetrain? That makes a big difference legally. 

Apis Mellifera
Apis Mellifera Dork
12/20/24 6:12 p.m.

In reply to spacecadet (Forum Supporter) :

The car I posted is a 907LH.  I was simply noting that the Scioto design is clearly inspired/derived/copied from the long tail 907, a relatively obscure prototype Porsche that was only relevant for a few months in 1968, being succeeded by the 908 and then the 917.  The car in the picture I posted happened to win the 1968 24 Hours of Daytona, the first ever 24-hour endurance race win for Porsche (907LHs finished 1-2-3, in fact) and was owned by Jerry Seinfeld, so maybe not so obscure after all.  Regardless, I fully endorse any and all vehicle manufacturers using Porsche prototypes as the basis for their designs.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/20/24 6:22 p.m.
Keith Tanner said:

Any chance we can get a peek at that semi-monocoque structure under the bodywork?

I have no complaints about the styling other than the square taillights, and that's easily rectified. The long tail is completely era-appropriate but of course now I'm wondering about a 917K-style short tail showing off all the sexy mechanical bits to anyone behind.

Personally, I like the 935ness of the tail.

Of course, Porsche did that to ensure that the aerodynamic center of pressure was behind the center of mass.  The whole tail was one big wing.

Back in the days of playing Need for Speed: Porsche Unleashed online, one driver commented that it drove like a dragster with a bicycle wheel up front. smiley  i miss that game.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/20/24 7:00 p.m.

There's just something so purposefully brutal about the 917K. "All that stuff behind the rear wheels doesn't help so let's leave it off". Okay, so we weren't really playing with undercar aero at the time. But it's so cool.

1970 Porsche 917K: Warm Up, Demonic Downshifts & RAW Flat-12 Sound!

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/20/24 7:04 p.m.

In reply to Keith Tanner :

I expect that they also needed to exhaust all of the cooling air from the engine somehow.

 

I forget, did the 917 have water cooled heads or did that come later?

I know that the frame was so tenuous that they pressurized it with nitrogen and had a frame pressure gauge as an instrument, so the driver could know if the frame was cracking.  They were really on the edge for reducing weight!

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/20/24 7:08 p.m.

You know, a 917 replica might not be too far off the cost of the Scioto. Very different performance level though.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/21/24 10:40 a.m.

In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :

I don't believe the 917 had water cooled heads but I could easily be wrong. The development story of that chopped off tail is a really interesting one. 

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