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P71
P71 GRM+ Memberand Dork
6/8/09 12:54 p.m.

And man am I in trouble. That car is exactly what I have been looking for! The 3.8 V6 has a beautiful midrange and some decent grunt from a stop. The GT has great suspension tuning and the standard brakes are more than adequate. I haven't driven a Track yet, and I intend to before I buy, but I think the base/GT version is the one to get. I was going to wait until May next year (when I graduate) to buy, but I might have to start counting pennies now.

The dealership was nicely staffed, the people were friendly and not pushy at all, and the car didn't even have a mark-up (none of their cars did). If/when I do buy one of these I am definitely getting it from them.

Cliffnotes: Faster than the RX-8, nicer and more comfortable than the Camaro, 1/3 cheaper than a 370Z. I've found my car.

sachilles
sachilles Reader
6/8/09 1:59 p.m.

You'll have to change your screen name.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla HalfDork
6/8/09 2:04 p.m.

And that my friends is how they do it. I now own 2 Hyundai's. Ready for #3. Build a better car for less.

P71
P71 GRM+ Memberand Dork
6/8/09 2:19 p.m.
sachilles wrote: You'll have to change your screen name.

Lol! It should already be RX7P71, so I would change it to what, GCGTRX7P71?

sachilles
sachilles Reader
6/8/09 2:24 p.m.

might be easier to just change your screen name to something that isn't in your fleet.

I am eager for a genesis to show up at one of our autocross events.

pinchvalve
pinchvalve GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/8/09 3:49 p.m.

The 370Z is a third more expensive, but twice the car from what I hear. (Not to take anything away form the Genesis, it too is a great car.)

Bobzilla
Bobzilla HalfDork
6/8/09 4:23 p.m.

Here's what annoys me.... why are we comparing a 2 seat sports car against a 4 seat sports coupe? Of course a purpose built sports car will over all perform better. It better, you can't use it for anything else!

John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/8/09 4:26 p.m.

I have said it before, I will bet the manual V6 GT will be the best car to mod from in the end.

wherethefmi
wherethefmi HalfDork
6/8/09 4:31 p.m.

I have to disagree on the V6 being the best to mod. That 2.0 4B11 variant is going to be a monster. lighter, cheaper and a few 1s and 0s and a downpipe away from more power.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla HalfDork
6/8/09 4:43 p.m.

I also think the Theta (it's NOT a 4B11, but does share the bottom end design) is going to be the dragon slayer of the two.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/8/09 4:54 p.m.

I agree....

RexSeven
RexSeven HalfDork
6/8/09 5:19 p.m.

I made an earlier post about a guy who brought a 2.0T Track to a local autocross event and he says the ECU is really holding the car back. The boost falls off somewhere in midrange from 13psi to 8psi, meaning there is a sweet spot he had to keep the engine at, which wasn't easy at that day's course. He also said Cobb is working on a standalone ECU and AEM is working on a piggyback, so aftermarket relief from the ECU Blues is on it's way.

wherethefmi
wherethefmi HalfDork
6/8/09 5:23 p.m.

i would imagine the cobb will be a obd2 plug in and reflash the stock ecu. thats typical of their previous products. couple that with a WB O2 sensor and you're in bidness.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla HalfDork
6/8/09 6:10 p.m.

Hyundai ECU Tuning has ALWAYS been a ... pardon my french... bitch. MY 02 Elantra could really use a good tune.... we have a factory flat spot from 3200-3600rpms where power falls on it's face. And Hyundai, being the geniuses they are, made it darn near impossible to crack the code.... go figure.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/8/09 6:12 p.m.

that and nobody really wanted to crack their code due to the law of supply and demand.. hopefully the genesis will supply the demand that people crack it

maroon92
maroon92 SuperDork
6/8/09 6:17 p.m.

I want a 2.0T track... But i dont want 19's

sachilles
sachilles Reader
6/8/09 6:34 p.m.

I think the law of supply and demand will generate a lot more resource towards cracking the hyundai ecu code. It appears that a few companies with established product are going pretty gung ho towards it, so I have faith it'll be done.

So when is GRM going to get one or two of these to beat on? I'd like to hear some impressions of the car coupled with a set of any of the recent tire test tires.

Love to see you guys use that same track you use for tire testing and a standard tire and get laps times of current popular cars.

RexSeven
RexSeven HalfDork
6/8/09 6:35 p.m.
wherethefmi wrote: i would imagine the cobb will be a obd2 plug in and reflash the stock ecu. thats typical of their previous products. couple that with a WB O2 sensor and you're in bidness.

OK, that's probably what he meant. I'm not familiar with Cobb's ECU tuning products.

maroon92 wrote: I want a 2.0T track... But i dont want 19's

+1. 19" tires are stupid-expensive. The least Hyundai could do when the R-spec comes out is make 18s (or even 17's, ideally) an option so R-comps or hi-performance summer tires don't cost as much.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla HalfDork
6/8/09 6:51 p.m.

I'm gonna guess 17's aren't going to clear those 14" Brembos up front.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla HalfDork
6/8/09 6:52 p.m.
sachilles wrote: So when is GRM going to get one or two of these to beat on? I'd like to hear some impressions of the car coupled with a set of any of the recent tire test tires. Love to see you guys use that same track you use for tire testing and a standard tire and get laps times of current popular cars.

Can I come down and be a "guest driver"?

P71
P71 GRM+ Memberand Dork
6/8/09 8:10 p.m.

From what I understand in the brochure, the Brembo brakes may use the same rotors as the regular ones. 18" wheels should clear the Brembos.

I think it will ultimately be cheaper to buy the Torsen and calipers separate, then you get to keep the swanky "natural brown" leather, spoiler-less decklid, and the cool front chrome strakes, all for cheaper.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla HalfDork
6/9/09 7:22 a.m.

THEY don't use the same rotors..... sadly.

P71
P71 GRM+ Memberand Dork
6/9/09 8:36 a.m.

Well suck. It still looks like certain 18" wheels clear the Brembos though (according to Tire Rack anyways).

I can tell you the regular brakes stop VERY nicely!

sachilles
sachilles Reader
6/9/09 9:20 a.m.

Does the coupe and sedan share the same underpinnings?

Bobzilla
Bobzilla HalfDork
6/9/09 9:22 a.m.

Sorta.... same "platform" but a different suspension, drivetrains, shells..... so yes and no.

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