First of many to go in our industry

BlueInGreen - Jon said:

I’m mounting my laser on an orca.  Sonar assisted targeting ftw.

Orcas are whales though. They have to come to the surface to breathe. That seems like a significant flaw. 

And thanks to those that have chosen to focus on sharks instead of politics. If we keep doing that, this thread can remain open. 

Antihero (Forum Supporter) said:

 

 

At what distance do we cross the streams for maximum laser hit? 

I think the streams should be set to converge at the natural distance for shark vision. And let me tell you, reading about hammerhead shark eyeballs is interesting stuff. But I haven't yet come up with the visual range.

Given that hammerheads swing their heads side to side when swimming, there is the potential for some friendly fire problems. We may have to stick with some of the more traditional shark designs.

Keith Tanner said:

I think the streams should be set to converge at the natural distance for shark vision. And let me tell you, reading about hammerhead shark eyeballs is interesting stuff. But I haven't yet come up with the visual range.

Given that hammerheads swing their heads side to side when swimming, there is the potential for some friendly fire problems. We may have to stick with some of the more traditional shark designs.

We just set up firing like an unmaned place. A guy in front of a TV back on load pulls the trigger. It'll be like those double decker races, one guy steering and one guy on throttle. Hilarious.

From this statement on there Facebook page you can only assume that all people that have pending orders are going to see pennies on the dollar at best and most likely nothing at all.  

"For those of you that have an open order or pending RMA, you'll be contacted by the Bankruptcy Court to resolve all creditor claims. Unfortunately, all operations have been stopped and there is no staff to address your questions."

I came in here to say that there is a lot of misinformation out there. Check the sources of the information you're reading, fact check, corroborate, and don't buy in on the first thing you see or read before making wild allegations or assumptions on certain topics. There are countries out there that control all of their media outlets and reporting. They can make the narrative whatever they want to better suit their needs. 

Back on topic: Very sad to see this happening already and so fast. It's the very start of the domino effect for our beloved industry. I'm doing my best to help out where I can. SCCA Membership started, GRM renewal/swag, dropped my Sequoia off to get a t-belt replacement, ordered tires for the racecar from tirerack, and some other misc parts for the racecar. That's my tax check gone with the hopes it can help out some local businesses. 

In reply to Antihero (Forum Supporter) :

I'm pretty sure sharks are already versed in strafing runs. 

My question is about the laser itself; is it visible light, or more correctly visible light to a shark? With a short continuous beam that might both give the shark a way to aim and dictate how the lasers are placed to be sightlined.

Further on that, would a shark laser, presumably underwater, be most effective in a continuous burn or short burst mode?  What sort of diffusion or beam spread do you get under water, and does it change with depth and water pressure or temp? Can a shark laser be bounced off thermal layers like sonar?  Would the shark laser be able to withstand depth charges and detonating underwater mines, and will it set off magnetic mines?

Looks like it would almost have to be in the visible spectrum, water is pretty opaque otherwise.

In reply to Keith Tanner :

But is a shark's visible spectrum the same as ours? They have been around essentially unchanged pretty much forever, so where did their eyes stop evolving?

I know sharks are cool and whatever, but if we're strapping lasers to random surviving species from prehistoric times we really need to consider the strategic advantages of the land and air threat we could achieve with turtles or alligators.

Do lazers work underwater, or will the water boil off all the energy right away?

mazdeuce - Seth said:

BlueInGreen - Jon said:

I’m mounting my laser on an orca.  Sonar assisted targeting ftw.

Orcas are whales though. They have to come to the surface to breathe. That seems like a significant flaw. 

And thanks to those that have chosen to focus on sharks instead of politics. If we keep doing that, this thread can remain open. 

But what if one country develops the shark laser first and starts a shark laser weapon race?  Can we then talk about the political ramifications of a shark laser mutual destruction?  

mazdeuce - Seth said:

BlueInGreen - Jon said:

I’m mounting my laser on an orca.  Sonar assisted targeting ftw.

Orcas are whales though. They have to come to the surface to breathe. That seems like a significant flaw. 

And thanks to those that have chosen to focus on sharks instead of politics. If we keep doing that, this thread can remain open. 

technically orcas are the largest member of the dolphin family and the name killer whale is a misnomer

oldopelguy (Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to Keith Tanner :

But is a shark's visible spectrum the same as ours? They have been around essentially unchanged pretty much forever, so where did their eyes stop evolving?

I know sharks are cool and whatever, but if we're strapping lasers to random surviving species from prehistoric times we really need to consider the strategic advantages of the land and air threat we could achieve with turtles or alligators.

It would make sense that a shark's visual sense would be evolved to work best where there is the most light available, which is about the same as our visible spectrum. 

Laser turtles are like a stealthy tank. Laser alligators would be a fast attack vehicle of some sort.

Stampie (FS) said:

mazdeuce - Seth said:

BlueInGreen - Jon said:

I’m mounting my laser on an orca.  Sonar assisted targeting ftw.

Orcas are whales though. They have to come to the surface to breathe. That seems like a significant flaw. 

And thanks to those that have chosen to focus on sharks instead of politics. If we keep doing that, this thread can remain open. 

But what if one country develops the shark laser first and starts a shark laser weapon race?  Can we then talk about the political ramifications of a shark laser mutual destruction?  

Sit down Timmy, let grandpa tell you about the Shark Wars and why we can't go in the ocean anymore.

The only other water species that is anywhere as fierce (subjectively) is the piranha. 

And you could fit some laser pointers on one of those, and that's about it.

alfadriver (Forum Supporter) said:

The only other water species that is anywhere as fierce (subjectively) is the piranha. 

And you could fit some laser pointers on one of those, and that's about it.

Have you ever encountered damselfish?  If these things were the size of sharks, no one would ever get in the water!

wiki link

In reply to Karacticus :

Damsels are shiny happy people  

Stampie (FS) said:

mazdeuce - Seth said:

BlueInGreen - Jon said:

I’m mounting my laser on an orca.  Sonar assisted targeting ftw.

Orcas are whales though. They have to come to the surface to breathe. That seems like a significant flaw. 

And thanks to those that have chosen to focus on sharks instead of politics. If we keep doing that, this thread can remain open. 

But what if one country develops the shark laser first and starts a shark laser weapon race?  Can we then talk about the political ramifications of a shark laser mutual destruction?  

Not an issue. Lasers are not weapons of mass destruction. Now, if they could be used as an anti-WMD defensive system against, say, the thermonuclear-equipped sperm whales (or even tactical nuclear bottlenose dolphins) that are sure to be developed, the first to field them might destabilize the balance of power quite considerably.

mazdeuce - Seth said:

BlueInGreen - Jon said:

I’m mounting my laser on an orca.  Sonar assisted targeting ftw.

Orcas are whales though. They have to come to the surface to breathe. That seems like a significant flaw. 

And thanks to those that have chosen to focus on sharks instead of politics. If we keep doing that, this thread can remain open. 

So Orca's would be the water to air/land attack force then.

In reply to DjGreggieP :

I think Orcas would be your stand-off artillery, much like the old battleships or AEGIS-equipped cruisers in service today.  The turtles and alligators would be your ground troops.

02Pilot said:

Stampie (FS) said:

mazdeuce - Seth said:

BlueInGreen - Jon said:

I’m mounting my laser on an orca.  Sonar assisted targeting ftw.

Orcas are whales though. They have to come to the surface to breathe. That seems like a significant flaw. 

And thanks to those that have chosen to focus on sharks instead of politics. If we keep doing that, this thread can remain open. 

But what if one country develops the shark laser first and starts a shark laser weapon race?  Can we then talk about the political ramifications of a shark laser mutual destruction?  

Not an issue. Lasers are not weapons of mass destruction. Now, if they could be used as an anti-WMD defensive system against, say, the thermonuclear-equipped sperm whales (or even tactical nuclear bottlenose dolphins) that are sure to be developed, the first to field them might destabilize the balance of power quite considerably.

I'm pretty sure one of our government agencies tried training dolphins to deliver tactical nukes at some point in the early 60's.... Tactical Dolphins, new band name?   Sure it's no Interstellar Sledgehammer but..

Can you imagine if the Sharknado sharks had lasers? Oh Man!