Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 MegaDork
11/5/17 2:53 p.m.

Turning a parts miata into a challenge car.  

 

I had pulled the torsen out of the parts car for my dd miata. Put the open and questionable rear into the parts car.

So i traded myself an open "far less value " rear for a torsen (generally 500 in my area) rear. Would it be acceptable to use a fmv of -200 (200 recoup on parts car purchase, deducted drom the challenge budget) for this swap?

Example: car: 800. Sold torsen to self for open diff and 200. New budget: 600. Recoup used: 200

Dirtydog
Dirtydog GRM+ Memberand Reader
11/5/17 6:30 p.m.

Trick question or self justification LOL.   May have to got to Challenge Supreme court.

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 MegaDork
11/5/17 6:33 p.m.

In reply to Dirtydog :

Didn't want to muddy that thread too much more. Hence this one. Seems legal in my head....

Dirtydog
Dirtydog GRM+ Memberand Reader
11/5/17 6:36 p.m.

Self justifixation........Beautiful thing, don't ya think.

Dirtydog
Dirtydog GRM+ Memberand Reader
11/5/17 6:37 p.m.

Uh oh! Freudian slip on my part.

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 MegaDork
11/6/17 7:16 a.m.

Bump for the workday crowd

Ranger50
Ranger50 UltimaDork
11/6/17 7:55 a.m.

I don't have an issue with it.

My ex-$2017 Ranger build is similar. I traded up to an 8.8 out of my old Ranger, that's currently being converted to a flat bed trailer by my dad crying, all I had to do was swap in the 7.5 from the build truck. I claim zero or budget neutral. I still had to do all the work to get both rearends into and out of both vehicles, what a PITA....

dculberson
dculberson PowerDork
11/6/17 9:14 a.m.

Sounds fair to me.

Andy Neuman
Andy Neuman Dork
11/6/17 10:23 a.m.

That sounds like a good valuation on the trade to me. Very reasonable, I'd give an open diff and $200 for a torsen any day of the week. I'm probably in the top 3% of Miata parts sold on this site. With 13 owned and not many sold as a whole car. 

AWSX1686
AWSX1686 GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/7/17 9:59 a.m.

Yeah, seems reasonable to me. 

Ovid_and_Flem
Ovid_and_Flem Dork
11/7/17 12:47 p.m.

I think the paper trail goes something like this:

Value of parts car as you got it (remember you can't recoup more than cars starting value).

"Sold" to yourself $500 torsen diff from that car -500.

"Purchased" open diff from yourself for $200.  Add that to your Challenge budget. +200

So if your parts car cost 800...then:

800 -500 = 300 after recoup ( you only have 300 that you can claim in recoup on 800 original price)

Then you would add 200 to your budget ... 800 - 500 +200= 500 total budget.

Rationale to do it this way is to keep track of your recoup limits associated with original car purchase.

Capische?

 

 

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Digital Experience Director
11/7/17 12:54 p.m.

Holy crap this got complicated fast.

Yes, you can sell parts to yourself for FMV. So, bring documentation, but going from an $800 Miata with a Torsen to a $600 Miata with an open differential seems totally fair. 

Ovid_and_Flem
Ovid_and_Flem Dork
11/7/17 1:43 p.m.

In reply to Tom Suddard :

Pretty soon a  CPA will be most critical team membercheeky

stafford1500
stafford1500 GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
11/7/17 2:07 p.m.

In reply to Ovid_and_Flem :

Once you get the CPA's involved, how long before we all need attorneys too???

Andy Neuman
Andy Neuman Dork
11/7/17 2:10 p.m.
Ovid_and_Flem said:

In reply to Tom Suddard :

Pretty soon a  CPA will be most critical team membercheeky

Hopefully I don’t need to include my accountants hourly rate or I may be bringing a RC car.

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