Wow, what an exciting race, right up till the last lap when it all went crazy......it's hard to say who's at fault there, it looked to me like Sainz pretty much held his line and the two just locked wheels, but Checo had plenty of room to his left and didn't (or couldn't) take it.
This year's championship could come down to the last race again - about time!
I seriously thought 4 drivers had a chance at the win even with like 5 laps to go.
What an incredible season!
That was excellent. Some real battles up and down the field, and super-clean until, well, you know. Oscar said in the green room that he figured he had a 50% chance of pulling off that lunge that got him the lead, and Charles' defence on T1 on the last racing lap was beautiful. Sainz found himself behind his wounded teammate so I can't blame him for going for the pass in T2, Perez should have been able to avoid that contact.
We're going to see that synchronized drifting shot a LOT over the rest of the year, but there was a shot of Lewis on lap 12 that really showed the speed and violence of these cars. The one good thing about street circuits is that you can get cameras close to the track without needing a massive telephoto that compresses the distance and removes the sensation of speed.
Great race! Wasn't able to pay as tight attention to it as was watching a pile of toddlers but it wasn't too bad because the excitement and action was obvious! Agree that top 5 had a chance, hell the top 7 in the championship all have race wins. Oliver Bearman is 16th out of 22 drivers in the championship having only been in 2 races. Franco Colapinto has points for Williams in his 2nd race.
I've been rooting for piastri since he stuck it to alpine, so it's great to see a win without any controversy (at least over his win).
Russell continues his tradition of picking up spilled podiums like a vacuum.
In reply to alfadriver :
Hard racing for sure. Either one could have given the other a bit more room but it's F1.........so that isn't going to happen.
I watch the races on the F1 app, but will often watch the pre and post shows on Sky, as long as Danica, Nico and Jacque are not there... Today, I wanted to see the feature, so skipped past baldy and his foolishness, until Ted Kravitz was talking to Lando. He had made a bet with ?Stella? , the McLaren boss, that Lando would finish 4th, ahead of Max.
That is some wild ass crystal ball E36 M3, there.
In reply to johndej :
It was surely a great race and Colapinto showed how bad Logan was. He already has more points than Logan could manage in his entire F1 career.
I just watched the race and what happened? How did the RB and the Ferrari collide? They both looked like they were going strait and then they were in the wall. It happened so fast I can not tell if someone moved over. Perez definitely had more track space and was behind but there was space to the left of Ferrari as well.
Anyone get the lowdown as to what happened?
The Perez/Sainz race-ending crash 💥 - View now in the Formula 1 App - https://formula1.shar.estori.es/go/clip/a20d859a-9e47-af61-dd2d-3a1508b10be6?collectionId=moments
Sainz was in the wreck and asked that same question. Last thing I saw the stewards deemed it a racing incident.
It looked to me like Perez was positioning himself to force Sainz to stay to the right and out of Leclerc's slipstream. Sainz was slowly drifting to the left and his rear left tire touched Perez's front right tire which caused the Ferrari to jink to the left.
In reply to markvince :
Logan's confidence was shot, Colapinto is going out there high on confidence because it really doesn't matter where he places because he isn't going to get a F1 ride.
At least no penalty for either driver.
Considering Checo had a decent run on Carlos he really should have just drifted over with him till alongside enough Carlos could no longer keep moving.
That decision ruined two drivers race and wrecked 2 cars imo.
Also allowed Charles to keep 2nd as that was mostly likely gonna turn into a 3rd and possibly 4th overwise.
The defense by Oscar under pressure lap after lap without a single lockup was amazing.
McLaren is going to have a problem though as Lando is slipping away from #1 driver
In reply to kevlarcorolla :
If Carlos waited to pass LeClerc, he would have been able to manipulate the positions to make sure Charles had every DRS section- helping them get to 2-3 and closing by 15 points instead of 8.
In reply to alfadriver :
Agreed,the mess started way back with Carlos getting greedy trying the outside.
In reply to kevlarcorolla :
That's not greedy. That's motor racing. If you don't take the hole when it presents itself, your team principal will send you home to watch the races on TV.
Streetwiseguy said:In reply to kevlarcorolla :
That's not greedy. That's motor racing. If you don't take the hole when it presents itself, your team principal will send you home to watch the races on TV.
I totally disagree. Especially with teammates. By the time Carlos caught Charles, they knew that Charles' tires were cooked. So just going into the DRS zone post turn two should have been a super easy pass that didn't mean take the outside of a turn with a wall and debris.
And given the risk of mistake, he either hits Charles or gets passed back by Checo. And letting Checo by would means a 3-4 for Ferrari. Had they not hit each other out- Checo is gone, and easily finishes in front of Charles, too.
Being a good teammate and team member also means maximizing the team points. If he waited to pass, he could have arranged a 2-3 for Ferrari. That's a 15 point gain to RBR instead of just 8.
For McLaren fans, it worked out really well, as they got a LOT more points than RBR.
In reply to Streetwiseguy :
Yeah cause sending it despite the consequences always gets a big pat on the back.
Carlos was faster and Checo was right there so trying a dusty outside line was always a low percentage move.
I felt Sainz just assumed LeClerc could brake later and he would do the same over under on LeClerc that he just did on Perez. LeClerc tires were just THAT far gone that Sainz ended up stuck outside in the marbles.
Then Perez and Sainz were just laser focused on trying to follow LeClerc into the sun. Perez was a little bit more at fault as he was behind but racing incident.
Did you guts watch the race? Passing was next to impossible. Take the hole.
In reply to Streetwiseguy :
Yeah,didn't you see Carlos easily chase them down and blow by Perez in short order??
Perez couldn't get by Charles but Carlos was surely going to after Charles cooked the tires chasing Lando.
In reply to Streetwiseguy :
Passing happened all day. It wasn't impossible, one had to wait for the right time. Perez had the pass, but LeClerc did an amazing repass going into the corner. And Sainz was closing on those to really quickly. Let alone, that wasn't a hole, as evidenced by what happened.
Charles really messed his 1-2 sequence- not as bad as he made Checo do, but it was bad enough that Carlos probably would have had him with DRS going through that section had he taken a decent line.
Alas, we will never know what could have happened.
I am really not understanding how anybody is putting more blame on Carlos.
Carlos was ahead. Carlos was taking the normal line. Checo had room to his left. Checo was the overtaking car.
It doesn't really matter what happened (cleanly) in the previous corner.
Sure, Carlos could have gotten in line behind his team mate. I'm not sure how that takes blame from checo.
Had this come across my desk from Brembo, so sharing it here:
5 Facts About the Singapore Formula 1 Grand Prix:
With the Singapore Grand Prix, the third quarter of the Formula 1 championship comes to a close. The Marina Bay Street Circuit, designed by architect Hermann Tilke, underwent its first modification in 2009, a second in 2013 with the removal of the chicane at Turn 10, a third in 2015 with adjustments to Turns 11, 12, and 13, and a fourth in 2023 with the removal of what were Turns 16, 17, 18, and 19. Compared to Monaco, the track is longer and much faster.
The GP Data
According to Brembo technicians, the 4,940-meter-long Marina Bay Street Circuit is categorized as highly demanding for brakes. On a scale from 1 to 5, it has earned a difficulty rating of 4 due to the fast pace and lack of adequate cooling areas: the brakes are used in 12 of the 19 corners, and 5 of these braking zones are classified as Hard because they require a pedal load of over 145 kg and generate a deceleration of 4.6 g.
Brake by Wire
In addition to calipers, discs, and brake pumps, Brembo is providing its by-wire units to 4 Formula 1 teams this year. Brake by Wire is an electronically controlled hydraulic system that optimizes the interaction between traditional hydraulic brakes and energy recovery systems involved in the car’s braking action. The correct balance between these two components is added to the action of the front brakes.
Brembo’s units are designed to manage rear braking, instantly varying the contribution of dissipative braking based on regenerative braking, ensuring proper balance between the front and rear axles. Brembo also manufactures by-wire units for road cars, with benefits including consistent stopping distances, reduced emissions, and optimized energy consumption.
The Toughest Turn
The toughest corner on the Marina Bay Street Circuit for the braking system is Turn 14: cars approach it at 288 km/h and slow down to 93 km/h in 2.19 seconds, during which they travel 94 meters. The effort required by drivers is 4.6 g, and the load they apply to the brake pedal is 150 kg. The braking power is 2,239 kW.
The crashgateThe first edition of the Singapore Grand Prix in 2008 is remembered for a series of exceptional circumstances. It was the first night race, but it was also the only one where a driver deliberately crashed into a wall to follow team orders, leading to the deployment of the safety car. In the report presented to the FIA by Nelson Piquet Jr., the Brazilian stated: "I caused the accident on purpose by continuing to accelerate, whereas a 'normal' reaction would have been to brake as soon as possible."
At the Top of the World
Singapore has achieved the top position for the 2nd consecutive year in the Chandler Good Government Index, which monitors the effectiveness of over a hundred governments worldwide: following Singapore are Denmark, Finland, Switzerland, and Norway. The top position results from superiority in 3 of the 7 evaluation criteria: leadership and foresight, strong institutions, and an attractive market. Brembo’s dominance in the brake category in surveys conducted by major automotive magazines is more enduring.
In reply to wvumtnbkr :
I said before, I'm personally not blaming Carlos for the crash. I'm blaming him for a big missed opportunity for Ferrari to finish 2-3 and close an extra 7 points on RBR. He had control to do that as soon as Checo was checked up by Charles when the repass happened.
I very much contend that even had the two cars not crashed into each other, given how Carlos came out of the corner, Checo probably makes the pass going into turn 3. (*probably, not certainly*) And had that happened, Checo would have had an easier pass on Charles on the next lap. On the other hand, had Carlos not gone for that "gap"- he would probably gotten Charles going into 3, and then towed him around for the rest of the race to get 2-3 for Ferrari.
That also helped McLaren gain a lot more points on RBR, too.
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