Formula One - 2016

Javelin wrote:

z31maniac wrote:

Javelin wrote: AND Vettel/Ferrari are going to destroy Mercedes.

Why would you think this? Perhaps you don't think Mercedes will continue to develop the engine or the chassis?

Because Ferrari started working on their 16 car early and can actually capitalize on some fundamental design changes now. Basically their rate of improvement is greater than Merc's.

So they are how many seconds down a race now? But because they we theoretically be able improve more quickly that = destroying Merc? Lolz

It's OK, you're a Ferrari fan boi.

the farther you're behind, usually does result in being able to improve at a slightly quicker rate than those that are "are already there" .... that said, the upcoming season should maybe bring them a bit closer together, though I really don't think that it will result in Ferrari (I'm a fanboi too LOL) being on par with Merc ... closer ?? hopefully ... if so it'll make for a lot better racing season

As far as the wind tunnels go, the 50% or 60% rule means the size of the car model in the tunnel, not the size of the actual tunnel itself. Most wind tunnels these days can easily handle a full size car. The FIA limited the size of the car model used for testing to 60% of the real car. http://formula1-dictionary.net/wind_tunnel.html For anyone so inclined, you can actually download FIA Formula 1 regulations right off their website. Aerodynamic regulations can be found in section 8 of the Sporting Regulations. http://www.fia.com/Regulations/regulation/fia-formula-one-world-championship-110/regulation/related-regulations-147

z31maniac wrote:

Javelin wrote:

z31maniac wrote:

Javelin wrote: AND Vettel/Ferrari are going to destroy Mercedes.

Why would you think this? Perhaps you don't think Mercedes will continue to develop the engine or the chassis?

Because Ferrari started working on their 16 car early and can actually capitalize on some fundamental design changes now. Basically their rate of improvement is greater than Merc's.

So they are how many seconds down a race now? But because they we theoretically be able improve more quickly that = destroying Merc? Lolz It's OK, you're a Ferrari fan boi.

Actually, I loathe both Ferrari and Vettel. But hey, whatever floats your boat?

In reply to ncjay:

Even still, Haas isn't going to use their very capable tunnel.

alfadriver wrote: In reply to ncjay: Even still, Haas isn't going to use their very capable tunnel.

Partially because the WindShear tunnel is booked to capacity MAKING CUSTOMER MONEY!!

stafford1500 wrote:

alfadriver wrote: In reply to ncjay: Even still, Haas isn't going to use their very capable tunnel.

Partially because the WindShear tunnel is booked to capacity MAKING CUSTOMER MONEY!!

But if I recall the RCE article, that's not the reason Haas is using the Ferrari tunnel.

alfadriver wrote:

stafford1500 wrote:

alfadriver wrote: In reply to ncjay: Even still, Haas isn't going to use their very capable tunnel.

Partially because the WindShear tunnel is booked to capacity MAKING CUSTOMER MONEY!!

But if I recall the RCE article, that's not the reason Haas is using the Ferrari tunnel.

Didn't Haas buy up what was left of Marussia, including their European facilities? Logistically, it's probably much faster, and potentially cheaper to use their partner's European wind tunnel than it would be to ship lots of equipment/personnel back and forth across the pond. Especially if your stateside tunnel is booked full of paying customers.

Gene Haas interview Nov 2015 said: Romain has been scoring points in so many races that he knows how to do it. He said to me, 'If we go out and test the car in February in Barcelona I can tell you after two laps if it is good or not.' And if it is a good car we will score points.

http://www.formula1.com/content/fom-website/en/latest/interviews/2015/11/gene-haas-q-a-no-junior-f1-ferrari-team.html

Dalara built chassis to Haas F1 specifications, using 2016 spec Ferrari engines, transmissions, suspension, and shocks...

Will Haas F1 score points?

When?

Will they be in the top 5? Top 10?

I hope they do well, but only time will tell.

I'm really hoping that it's not another season dominated by one team. That gets kinda old after a few races.

I will very much be rooting for HAAS and they score a podium in 2016.

a podium would be pretty special ... but I think they would be quite happy (first season, new, pretty much from scratch, team) if they could be in the points on a semi regular basis ... would equal $$$ at the end of the season

Rio Haryanto may be F1's newest driver. Manor agreed to use him if he could come up with the money. The money is there thanks to the Indonesian government. I find it odd that governments are in the business of supporting race car drivers. So, nothing about talent or experience, but comes down to money. Something needs to be fixed. Oh yeah, Vettel was quickest in recent rain tire test at Paul Ricard, not that it means anything. http://planetf1.com/news/haryantos-path-to-manor-has-been-cleared/

Kevin Magnussen set to replace Pastor Maldonado at Renault F1 team

Here is a shocker, so is MAld going to Manor or possible kick one of the Sauber drivers out.

I'd heard that Maldonado was having sponsor trouble. Seems like a possible good break for Magnussen. Let's see how that works out. "Silly season" is kicking in a bit late this year.

No surprise at all. It's been talked about for a while. Venezuela is in serious economic downturn right now. For the State owned oil company that sponsors Maldonado to spend 46-50M when they are having all of these issues is just socially irresponsible.

The same things are happening with the new Oil money GP in Azerbaijan. I'll be surprised if that one gets off the ground and isn't cancelled.

I know if I were a citizen in either country, I would be pissed if the state was sponsoring F1 while the nation's economy is going in the toilet.

ncjay wrote: So, nothing about talent or experience, but comes down to money. Something needs to be fixed.

Go read "Flat Out Flat Broke" there isnt anything new on this and it has been the growing reality of racing since sponsorships took over. Half the battle is getting the sponsorships to climb the ladder.

It was around before sponsorships, too. Either you had a wealthy patron or you were self-sponsored.

Will anyone mill Crashanardo assuming this plays out?

Brit bias, I'm glad it looks like Jolyon Palmer is still in in the 2nd car. Loved his dad, remember he won the Jim Clark Cup in 87, that was the title for NA cars when they were running NA and Turbo together.

its official

I didn't know Carlos Sainz, Jr is in F1 now..

Renault's 2016 car. I hope they change the paint before the season opener. That's too plain for a racecar.

ncjay wrote: Renault's 2016 car. I really hope they don't change the paint before the season opener. I'm so sick of unnecessarily complicated paint jobs that hide the shape of the car. Simple is good..

Fixed that for you.

I like it, it looks mean and it'll be easy to spot.