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z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
7/15/17 8:02 a.m.

^Oh so you can consistently deal with 5gs and are fit enough that holding a 190 bpm heart rate for 2 hours won't kill you?

Tell us more!

Advan046
Advan046 UltraDork
7/15/17 11:14 a.m.

In reply to Keith Tanner:

In one of the rare moments of Steve Matchett usefulness, he pointed out that this test unit is just that. Not being designed into the chassis it could shake from aero buffeting, would need to be optically optimized, and of course it wasn't designed with specific mounting points like say a windshield on a endurance car. Thus the vibration and distortion could be a problem. Where is the Manor chassis? They could modify or make two chassis to have a proper mounted shield and put a couple drivers in to see how it affects racing vision.

So early days...

ncjay
ncjay SuperDork
7/15/17 5:57 p.m.

Noticing the difference between a fully enclosed sports car and Vettel's F1 ride. The windshield appears much more reclined and is closer to Vettel's face than a sports car windshield is. Seems like it might be similar to trying to drive looking through a fishbowl.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
7/17/17 10:27 p.m.

So I just watched Silverstone. Good lord, Bottas. I've said a bunch of times that the Mercedes is optimized for running out front and suffers when it's in traffic - but nobody told Bottas that. You do not want him hunting you down at the end of a race.

As for the windshield/cockpit - it would have to be designed into the car instead of just bolted on. But it's not an insurmountable problem. The FIA just has to accept that open cockpits don't make much sense and let the designers solve the problem.

racerfink
racerfink UltraDork
7/17/17 10:42 p.m.

Silverstone is a perfect match for the Mercedes chassis and power.

Advan046
Advan046 UltraDork
7/18/17 9:18 a.m.

Nice Race, I think the Ferrari guys have been pushing the tire envelope since Vettel arrived. I can understand them trying everything but I think almost every season there has been a tire failure with their cars.

I liked watching Ricciardo and Bottas battle up to the front end of things.

Kvyatt and Sainz, man they just paving their way to endurance racing or Formula E. Sainz might do well in a top car if given the chance. And Kvyatt just proved he couldn't handle it last year.

The worst part of the whole week was this constant nonsense about the PR event London. You would think that Hamilton sat out of the British GP all together to sleep in at home a few days. While it looked like a lot of fun the press seemed to focused in trying to make a story where there wasn't one. Similar to the Force India issue in Canada. The team all think they did great but all the questions have been about "losing a podium" or driver in fighting. Even now they seem to spend more talking about how the force india drivers are fighting instead of how well they are driving to haul the team up to the point position they are in. I won't comment any more on the whole Vettel banging wheels with Hamilton. They resolved it so done. I at least like that the drivers in total are starting to push back a bit in their responses by calling out terrible questions.

So 1 point in it and Bottas is close enough. So I am excited to see how the rest of the season plays out. If Mercedes have figured out the tires then they will carry the season again. Like Hamilton said it is pretty cool that MB have gone through a major rules change and still remain on top.

Williams where are you!!!!! It was good to see Ms Claire Williams talking about her team. They seem a great team to be a part of, I hope they do a surprise jump in performance.

Palmer and Alonso must have just hated Sunday.

ncjay
ncjay SuperDork
7/29/17 8:49 p.m.

All Ferrari front row in Hungary.

SnowMongoose
SnowMongoose SuperDork
7/30/17 12:57 a.m.

Horse Horse Arrow Arrow Bull Bull.
Looking forward to waking up in a few hours to watch, fingers crossed for some passing near the front.

ncjay
ncjay SuperDork
7/30/17 9:33 a.m.

Alonso finishes 6th, last car on the lead lap. A fluke or a sign of things to come?

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
7/30/17 10:54 a.m.
ncjay wrote: Alonso finishes 6th, last car on the lead lap. A fluke or a sign of things to come?

He does think that it was more the track than the car- even though the car is improved

Funny to see him in the pits sunning in a chair- both as a painting on the pit lane and in real life.

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
7/30/17 11:20 a.m.
ncjay wrote: Alonso finishes 6th, last car on the lead lap. A fluke or a sign of things to come?

With fast lap and his team mate in the points too.

racerfink
racerfink UltraDork
7/30/17 11:46 a.m.

Probably a better track for them than Monaco was.

oldsaw
oldsaw UltimaDork
7/30/17 7:37 p.m.

I liked KMag's response when the Hulk came up to (hopefully) humiliate him during an interview with the Danish media. KMag also had a ringside seat when Hulk ran into his teammate at the start so it was a bit cheeky and ironic that a perp played victim and got called for it.

Karma.

Hamilton relinquishing his spot to Bottas was classy but if the Finn keeps closing the points gap that co-operation could end real soon.

Vettel was very appreciative that Kimi kept the Mercs away from him and showed it multiple times. Ferrari owes him a win.

WildScotsRacing
WildScotsRacing Dork
7/31/17 6:05 a.m.

As an aside, I found the beforehand Formula 2 race to be very entertaining and hard-fought. The F2 boys had more than a couple of very NASCAR-esque moments.

johndej
johndej HalfDork
7/31/17 7:21 a.m.

Good race! Fun to watch what ferrari would do under the pressure. Had Hamilton slipped past Kimi I think Vettel would have been a sitting duck. Hamilton giving the spot back to Bottas was classy. Shame Verstappen had such a bone head move or it could have been a 6 car fight at the end. Was happy to see PDR fill in for Massa, always thought he got the boot a bit early.

Advan046
Advan046 UltraDork
7/31/17 7:49 a.m.

I didn't have much time to really watch the race. I DVRd it and fast forwarded through the commercials and skipped some of the mid race.

So when does Verstappen get the Grojean race suspension. He is quite often blowing the first lap and causing himself or others to be out of the race. Rather sad. He must be the new Maldonado.

GREAT for McLaren Honda to finish so strongly on the least stressful track for Honda engines. I really hope the Honda guys can bring similar positions to Spa or Monza. I really miss McLaren running at the front of things. They need to start beating Red Bull.

The Championship is all together very tight at top. The top three are in it. I think Hamilton's performance was excellent. Giving back the position was something he has always been about. His desire to be honorable and loyal to his team has gotten him into trouble but this time it was a good move.

Unless Ferrari or Tag Heuer find some more horsepower, MB will probably run away in Spa and Monza. So the Hamilton and Bottas 1-2 is likely to turn the championship to Hamilton in two raced time. I still kind of hope Honda finds the magic bullet to their issues and surprise with some wins later this year.

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
7/31/17 7:58 a.m.
Advan046 wrote: Unless Ferrari or Tag Heuer find some more horsepower, MB will probably run away in Spa and Monza. So the Hamilton and Bottas 1-2 is likely to turn the championship to Hamilton in two raced time. I still kind of hope Honda finds the magic bullet to their issues and surprise with some wins later this year.

It's odd to hear them as an engine manufacturer, when you can wear one on your wrist. It is Renault- TAG is just a sponsor. Like the TAG-Porsche engines of old- still Porsche, just with TAG money.

But on that note, I think one of the big reasons Lewis didn't really push super hard to pass Kimi was exactly what you point out- SPA and Monza, which are the ultimate opposite tracks.

Hungary illustrates one of my F1 pet-peeves- for cornering tracks, you can't really get under a second far enough to actually use DRS. It's been over 20 years of aero so sensitive that you can follow closely. Can we get back to ground effects centric downforce over wings? So that you can have cars follow each other closely in corners, like Indy car (and even they are going to do better at that next season).

Advan046
Advan046 UltraDork
7/31/17 8:39 a.m.

In reply to alfadriver:

Yes I was being a bit silly with the Tag Heuer bit, but that is what they want it to be called Ha!

I finally saw one of the Formula E races and can see why manufacturers are interested. It looked fun as the racing was close. I would like to see Ross Brawn really push through an aero package to get the racing closer but unfortunately it seems that everyone prefers the look and speed of the current spec cars. I would have rather they tweaked last years cars to simply reduce distrupted air to allow closer following.

Now with the Halo confirmed for 2018 they could get away with a lot of aero rule changes as the car aesthetic will change a lot anyhow.

adam525i
adam525i GRM+ Memberand New Reader
8/2/17 8:24 p.m.
trigun7469
trigun7469 SuperDork
8/3/17 8:08 a.m.

In reply to alfadriver: I was looking at Red bull drivers suit and wondering about the Austin Martin Sponsorship and why not just tag that as the engine instead of the watch.

I am wondering if Kyvat will be back with Toro Rosso after the break, his season has been pretty disappointing. He is probably a okay driver, but I think he need to go to sports cars or something else.

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
8/3/17 8:14 a.m.
trigun7469 wrote: In reply to alfadriver: I was looking at Red bull drivers suit and wondering about the Austin Martin Sponsorship and why not just tag that as the engine instead of the watch.

That's even more amusing. Label the car after an car company, but label the engine for a watch company. Nobody wants to associate the endurance racing Astons with F1, apparently.

BTW, to all- I'm not offended by it- it's just funny.

On the other hand, it's curious that Force India does not mooch a little off of Tata and find a way to get the Jaguar name on their car.

trigun7469
trigun7469 SuperDork
8/3/17 1:08 p.m.

Redbull should just build their own engine, tag it Austin Martin, let Toro Rosso be the guinea pig for year one, go to a year to year contract with Renault until Toro Rosso has worked all the kinks out. I don't understand the logic of Toro Rosso going to the Honda engines and on top of that being a #2 team for a Mclaren makes no sense.

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
8/3/17 1:32 p.m.
trigun7469 wrote: Redbull should just build their own engine, tag it Austin Martin, let Toro Rosso be the guinea pig for year one, go to a year to year contract with Renault until Toro Rosso has worked all the kinks out. I don't understand the logic of Toro Rosso going to the Honda engines and on top of that being a #2 team for a Mclaren makes no sense.

Yes, because even with resources like Toyota or Honda.........we can see building a competitive engine is just a walk in the park.

lol

trigun7469
trigun7469 SuperDork
8/3/17 3:26 p.m.

In reply to z31maniac: They have talked about it the past few years, I wouldn't discount Red bull they have a lot of money and have taken the fight to Mercedes and Ferrari with a low HP renault.

racerfink
racerfink UltraDork
8/3/17 4:04 p.m.

I'm guessing most of you guys are too young...

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