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Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy GRM+ Memberand Dork
12/20/11 9:10 p.m.

What do you think about a Foxbody Mustang as a rallycross car?

I'm betting that with a V6 engine, some better brakes and coil overs with taller springs, it might be fun. Probably not fast or competitive, but fun.

Discuss.

fritzsch
fritzsch Reader
12/20/11 9:12 p.m.

I think any car could be fun with rallycross. If it could be done cheaply im sure it would be fun on a budget. might not be ideal but im always a fan of kinda out there ideas

Maroon92
Maroon92 SuperDork
12/20/11 9:15 p.m.

Bone stock it would be fun. In fact, I have a set of rally tires on 5X114.3 steelies... How fun does it sound...(in other words, I'm in the market for a 5 lug fox...)

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
12/20/11 9:17 p.m.

Make it a 5.0 V8 and then you're talking.

Aeromoto
Aeromoto Reader
12/20/11 9:18 p.m.

I'd bet it would be very competitive. 4 cyl Fox Mustangs are the bread and butter of dirt track mini-stock racing. If they can survive those beer pissing rednecks, they can survive anything.

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
12/20/11 9:19 p.m.

Also,

http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/reader-rides/198/

former520
former520 Reader
12/20/11 9:21 p.m.

There are a couple Mustangs that have run (even a Camaro!). They can fit the smaller size BFG's for cheaper tires.

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy GRM+ Memberand Dork
12/20/11 9:23 p.m.

Foxbody V8s couldn't stop, I don't imagine dirt would help that much.

The reason I'm asking is there are a few 80s era Mustangs cheap on Craigslist. I'm betting I could pick up the GTwith no engine and a dirty interior for $250.

The dirt track setup is exactly why I was thinking this could be done very well for $1000.

(edit: and I'm thinking a V6 out of a Probe or late model Mustang- all aluminum, etc)

HappyAndy
HappyAndy HalfDork
12/20/11 9:26 p.m.

Someone is, or was recently, successfully campaigning a fox body as a stage rally car in NASAs rally series. If a fox can handle stage rallying, rally X shouldn't be a problem. A fox Stang in the dirt sounds like a lot of fun to me.

Maroon92
Maroon92 SuperDork
12/20/11 10:15 p.m.
Brett_Murphy wrote: Foxbody V8s couldn't stop, I don't imagine dirt would help that much.

Actually it will. It takes much much less pressure to lock up a wheel in dirt than it does on asphalt. Therefore, you need much less braking power, and much less thrust power to perform well in rallycross. Breaking traction is not a good thing...

White_and_Nerdy
White_and_Nerdy HalfDork
12/21/11 7:27 a.m.

How much power do you really need to spin the rear wheels? Not a ton, so a V6 Stang oughta work fine, and be cheaper because they're generally less desirable.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo SuperDork
12/21/11 7:37 a.m.

You could probably pick up a V6 mustang for cheap from a pregnant teenager.

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy GRM+ Memberand Dork
12/21/11 7:53 a.m.

In reply to Maroon92:

That is a great point. I'm kind of irritated it wasn't dawning on me last night. I guess I was more tired than I thought.

However, a V8 will still have more force of inertia working against it, and as it's been hinted at, the non-8s are cheapity-cheap-cheap.

Sky_Render
Sky_Render Reader
12/21/11 7:59 a.m.

I'm going to rallycross my '93 Toyolla Wagon, so why the hell not?

N Sperlo
N Sperlo SuperDork
12/21/11 8:17 a.m.

Looking for an Escort or other similar vehicle to rallycross. Just putin' it out there.

griffin729
griffin729 HalfDork
12/21/11 8:22 a.m.

The one rallycross I've managed to make it to so far had a fox body V8 running in M2, just sayin'.

Tom Heath
Tom Heath Web Manager
12/21/11 9:26 a.m.

I think the only requirements to be competitive in Rallycross are:

1) A sincere lack of empathy for the car you're driving
2) The right tires

Seriously, there's no reason to think a Mustang couldn't play. There are rumors of taking our crapcan Lustang (Linctang? Mustoln?) to the next local event next month, and it's vaguely related to a Fox body car.

Aeromoto
Aeromoto Reader
12/21/11 9:32 a.m.

I'd go with a 2.3 4cyl and 5 speed. From what I've seen the 2.3s can make more power than most Ford V-6s, and there are tons and tons of speed parts and dirty tricks for them, and lots of way to hide the speed parts. One of the most impotant skills in mini stock dirt track racing is to sneak stuff past the tech man.

Jeff
Jeff Dork
12/21/11 9:34 a.m.

+1

Rallycross is all about finding grip. You do that by being smart. Having good tires helps. Everything else is just gravy and doesn't mean you'll be faster than the gal that knows how to find the grip.

The_Jed
The_Jed Reader
12/21/11 10:10 a.m.

Mike Hurst and Rob Bohn successfully campaigned a Group 5 notchback in the 100 Acre Wood Rally. It had a "6.3 Liter" engine, a slightly poked and stroked 351 Windsor, that may have necessitated a judicious right foot but it didn't keep them from winning.

A Group 5 fox has been a dream of mine for years...

The_Jed
The_Jed Reader
12/21/11 10:11 a.m.

singleslammer
singleslammer New Reader
12/21/11 11:16 a.m.

Hey! Ive seen that car race!

ClemSparks
ClemSparks SuperDork
12/21/11 11:43 a.m.

I'm somewhat surprised to be the first to this thread with this: http://jalopnik.com/5658080/78-ford-station-wagon-wins-rallycross-2

It is what the thread title made me think of...

Clem

imirk
imirk Reader
12/21/11 12:52 p.m.

If a Fox can do it.. where are all the P71 RallyX cars?!

Strike_Zero
Strike_Zero Dork
12/21/11 1:01 p.m.

In reply to ClemSparks:

That is AWESOME!!

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