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iceracer
iceracer PowerDork
3/2/16 8:45 a.m.

In general a bar will have more effect on a rear wheel car than front wheel.

This because of the distance from the firewall.

On my Fiesta, the mounts are almost in the firewall. A bar would have no effect and would be very difficult to mount one anyway.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
3/2/16 8:58 a.m.
Type Q wrote: I have an EG Civic. I put in a Neuspeed upper strut bar many years ago. I don't remember it making a much difference by itself. If you have an EX or Si, there are mounting points in the K member for a reinforcing bar that runs forward of the steering rack that was included on the DC chassis Integras but not the Civics. When I put that in, it made a much more noticeable difference. I had to put a small dimple it in to clear the power steering lines on the Civic steering rack. So if you are going for junkyard parts, make sure you get the lower K member brace to go with the upper factory strut bar. In combination, you will definitely feel the difference. The last thing to noticeably stiffen the front structure of the car was an aftermarket part called a Frame Lock from a company called Korbach. Korbach, I believe, is out of business now. The founders were friends of a friend. My Civic has the first prototype set for an EG. Google "Civic frame lock" if you want to know more.

I am not sure if the frame locks are FSP legal. Or for that matter adding the K-member brace from a Teggy unless it counts as a lower suspension brace.

Type Q
Type Q Dork
3/2/16 9:16 a.m.

In reply to 93EXCivic: The lower K member brace might be in a gray area regarding the rules. If they included it on any of the Civic models you could likely use the update/backdate provision.

As a practical reality, I doubt anyone will ever even notice it. It sits in a place that is hard to see with out a lift. It's OEM Honda and looks like it belongs there.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
3/2/16 9:19 a.m.
Type Q wrote: In reply to 93EXCivic: The lower K member brace might be in a gray area regarding the rules. If they included it on any of the Civic models you could likely use the update/backdate provision. As a practical reality, I doubt anyone will ever even notice it. It sits in a place that is hard to see with out a lift. It's OEM Honda and looks like it belongs there.

Does it mount within two inches of a suspension pickup? Cause if it does it would be legal.

I wonder if Del Sols had them? It is listed on the same line as my Civic so I could backdate/update from one of those as well.

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt UberDork
3/2/16 10:01 a.m.
Sonic wrote: As has been said, don't get one with a flex joint on the ends like so many have, that makes it nearly useless.

I suspect it still has a significant effect - the bar is loaded almost entirely in tension. Bends in the bar are a bigger compromise than using pivots at the ends.

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