Fun driving in snow !!!

http://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsports/videos/a24652/watch-a-formula-car-attack-the-nurburgringin-the-snow/

Love it!

So......SCCA could have a new class. F500 snow class. Just seems natural.

Didn't have time to watch all 14 minutes, but I assume, since he has the audacity to drive a RWD in the snow, it ends in firey death, right?

I've tried. And tried. And tried to get my co-workers who are in a constant state of panic from thanksgiving to Easter about driving in snow to buy some damn snow tires. None have taken my advice.

I literally was stuck in my perfectly flat driveway in my Protege5 last year. Then I bought cheap snows and laughed at everybody else as I plowed along.

and people look at me crazy when I tell them I run snow tyres on the Disco... they cannot fathom why I would need them on a 4x4

Probably would have been a lot faster if they'd hired a Fin to drive it.

Proof that money can do anything. As I've always said: "AWD: twice the grip, half the skill."

Funny, a buddy and I just got back from hooning in my celica in the snow. He drives a Subaru and regularly snow drifts that sucker. I scared him several times today with my entry speed and slip angle. Keep in mind I am on summer tires, 185/70/14 kumhos. And had no weight in the back.

In reply to Trackmouse:

Twice the traction, that's all you get from AWD. I've still yet to get a 2wd car, with or without snow tires(I run them now), stuck anywhere a AWD one wouldn't be(high centered).

Not sure what chassis? I'm thinking Formula BMW. Even with snow tires there were a couple of spots where the car understeered straight on. As for the comment about not "needing"AWD in the snow, true enough but it makes life easier in hilly country.........as F500 snow class, I bet I could use some classic mini tires........looks like fun!

Tom

What about 1 wheel drive? I'm fascinated by the idea of tire chains on a motorcycle.

The lack of runoff area made me pucker just watching it.

Your tauntaun will freeze before you reach the first marker!

Hmm...a thread about driving in snow. Cue everyone's stories about how they drove through the blizzard of the century in their track Mustang with old Hoosiers "no problem" and also stopped to tow three subarus and two 4x4s out of ditches with that car. You guys probably go onto running forums and tell people how you don't need any fancy Nikes, you can run just fine in your steel-toe combat boots

In reply to irish44j:

Aww, come on man, I didn't even get to pull the Michigan lake effect card yet!

All this talk of snow .. We got zip here in the forecast in nepa. I had ski plans for the whole weekend and it's going to berkeleying rain.

Please note how narrow the full tread snow tire's are on the car. Next, his ability to keep the momentum and "float" through the fresh snow, when available, rather than the earlier tracks is amazing. Having that much rear wing, keeping the rear tires loaded, only works because of his ability to maintain momentum. Yes, mo and mo momentum.

It would be fun to see the "next" days runs on ice with studded tires.

irish44j wrote: Hmm...a thread about driving in snow. Cue everyone's stories about how they drove through the blizzard of the century in their track Mustang with old Hoosiers "no problem" and also stopped to tow three subarus and two 4x4s out of ditches with that car. You guys probably go onto running forums and tell people how you don't need any fancy Nikes, you can run just fine in your steel-toe combat boots

Yikes. Pooped in someone's cornflakes...

I want to see the trailer. There is no way he fit his huge titanium balls in that tiny car.

OK. I'll admit I posted twice in this thread before watching the video. But, having seen it... anyone who grew up where it snows half the damn year would try that in a heartbeat. A light, maneuverable car with lots of weight over the rear wheels and proper snow tires!? Yes, please.

Someone earlier posted about momentum. That and the subtle inputs to keep the car balanced on all-fours ... these are things that you do on asphalt at re-goddamn-diculous speeds in w2w racing that are mastered on snow, water and dirt at manageable speeds. I wonder how people from outside the snow belt ever learn to drift a race car at all. It's the one and only benefit for a racer to this berkeleying horrific weather we deal with while you asshats drive about in your convertibles and pose for pictures next to Santa and your motorcycle in shorts.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: All this talk of snow .. We got zip here in the forecast in nepa. I had ski plans for the whole weekend and it's going to berkeleying rain.

I worked today at the ski shop where I usually work on weekends. We had a lot of our rental customers coming back with clean unused skis. I feel your pain.

Then again, we only get a couple decent snowfalls here every year anyhow.

Trackmouse wrote:

irish44j wrote: Hmm...a thread about driving in snow. Cue everyone's stories about how they drove through the blizzard of the century in their track Mustang with old Hoosiers "no problem" and also stopped to tow three subarus and two 4x4s out of ditches with that car. You guys probably go onto running forums and tell people how you don't need any fancy Nikes, you can run just fine in your steel-toe combat boots

Yikes. Pooped in someone's cornflakes...

lol no, just reminded of me what I posted in the other thread.

I honestly can't wait to have the e30 out on winterforces for the first time to see how it does. Last year it just sat in the driveway on star specs and I drove the subie all winter.

That video is pretty much normal driving feels like when you daily a Miata around the 'frozen tundra' of Green Bay...It's the thing I miss the most about those winters!

Surviving four New England winters in an '88 2wd, 5spd Ranger with M&S tires wasn't hard at all. You just had to resign yourself to the fact that driving sideways and judicious counter steer was a part of life! (Most people don't find that to be as fun as I do)

Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: OK. I'll admit I posted twice in this thread before watching the video. But, having seen it... anyone who grew up where it snows half the damn year would try that in a heartbeat. A light, maneuverable car with lots of weight over the rear wheels and proper snow tires!? Yes, please. Someone earlier posted about momentum. That and the subtle inputs to keep the car balanced on all-fours ... these are things that you do on asphalt at re-goddamn-diculous speeds in w2w racing that are mastered on snow, water and dirt at manageable speeds. I wonder how people from outside the snow belt ever learn to drift a race car at all. It's the one and only benefit for a racer to this berkeleying horrific weather we deal with while you asshats drive about in your convertibles and pose for pictures next to Santa and your motorcycle in shorts.

drive a FWD racecar … you really don't want to be drifting