http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=142826
Nice match up.
their specs page doesn'tmatch the article. They said the GC held .89 on the skidpad and the G37 was .85.
that is the flatest Tq curve i have ever sceen. I think that a few of the gripes will be worked out a year or 2, so it will be better. But I also think that the 2.0T R spec is going to be the HOT model. Cheaper, lighter, and big gains from over-boost for cheep.
probably a fairer comparison would have been the 370z and the genesis, but then the genesis probably wouldn't have won
i just can't wait to see what the weight difference will be between the 2.0Rspec and the 3.8L version.
jcanracer wrote: i just can't wait to see what the weight difference will be between the 2.0Rspec and the 3.8L version.
Those numbers are out there if you look for 'em.
actually i just checked weights, the 2.0T is 3294lbs and the 3.8L is 3389lbs. I hope they can at least cull 100lbs or more for the R-Spec.
We can thank the federal gov't for the inflated weights. Considering the car has to carry so much crap onboard, pass a litany of crash safety ratings and tests, pass emissions for 50 states and a plethora of other crap..... That car could easily be 2800lbs if they'd let them build a sports coupe.
Back to the original comparison, what other cars could you include in this? 300hp rwd coupes, 3k+ on the scales. Mustang, 135i, others?
Challenger is more of a boulevardier if you ask me. My parents just bought a new SE, which I put through its paces. Looks great, fantastic on the highway, decent brakes and handling for a 3600 lb barge. If you want a stick, you have to buy the Hemi (35k). The V6 is spunky, but it's no rocketship....I think I counted right at 7 sec to 60.
All in all, much more of a GT than a sports car. Although considering the majority of G37s and Genesises (that can't be gramatically correct, can it?) will be automatics and will never turn a wheel in anger, it's probably a fairly apt comparison for the non-enthusiast crowd.
Bobzilla wrote: new Camaro, challenger.
Any hard figures for the new camero? I just hope this whole "situation" doesn't ruin it. And for the Challenger just isn't right for this, too big. 3600# for a 250hp v6. The v8's at 372hp and 425hp tip the scales at over 2 tons
neon4891 wrote: Back to the original comparison, what other cars could you include in this? 300hp rwd coupes, 3k+ on the scales. Mustang, 135i, others?
I'd say IS350, if it weren't for that 2-door coupe thing....
300+HP 2-door sports coupes...
Nissan 370Z (V6), Infiniti G37 (V6), HYUNDAI Genesis (V6), Ford Mustang (V8!!!), Chevy Camaro (V6)
Anybody still want a Ford V8? I have one... cheap...
If we are being fair, you would need a rear seat...
You could add AWD to the equation and invite Godzilla...
jcanracer wrote: actually i just checked weights, the 2.0T is 3294lbs and the 3.8L is 3389lbs. I hope they can at least cull 100lbs or more for the R-Spec.
Doubt it. If anything, the R-spec will be heavier than the plain-jane turbo 4, as it will use the larger brakes and heavier suspension components of the V6 model.
I do find it humerous that while Mustangs are viewed as heavy pigs, the V6 Mustang is actually the lightest of the current batch of RWD Coupes. And as soon as Ford gets off their ass and puts an aluminum block in the GTs, the V8s will be right in there weightwise, too.
neon4891 wrote: that is the flatest Tq curve i have ever sceen. I think that a few of the gripes will be worked out a year or 2, so it will be better. But I also think that the 2.0T R spec is going to be the HOT model. Cheaper, lighter, and big gains from over-boost for cheep.
The Solstice gxp seems to have it beat in flatness since they designed the engine to control boost to keep it constant.
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