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John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/10/09 9:30 a.m.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=142826

Nice match up.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla Reader
3/10/09 9:49 a.m.

their specs page doesn'tmatch the article. They said the GC held .89 on the skidpad and the G37 was .85.

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 HalfDork
3/10/09 9:52 a.m.

Holy crap that power curve on the Hyundai is ridiculous.

neon4891
neon4891 SuperDork
3/10/09 10:38 a.m.

that is the flatest Tq curve i have ever sceen. I think that a few of the gripes will be worked out a year or 2, so it will be better. But I also think that the 2.0T R spec is going to be the HOT model. Cheaper, lighter, and big gains from over-boost for cheep.

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
3/10/09 10:45 a.m.

wow that sucker is a flat power curve..

Strizzo
Strizzo Dork
3/10/09 11:15 a.m.

probably a fairer comparison would have been the 370z and the genesis, but then the genesis probably wouldn't have won

Gearhead_42
Gearhead_42 Dork
3/10/09 11:17 a.m.

Awesome torque. Can't wait to see the turbo4 on the dyno

jcanracer
jcanracer New Reader
3/10/09 11:55 a.m.

i just can't wait to see what the weight difference will be between the 2.0Rspec and the 3.8L version.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla Reader
3/10/09 11:56 a.m.

Hyundai has already proven it's not a Honduh wanna be... they make torque! lol

ReverendDexter
ReverendDexter Reader
3/10/09 12:00 p.m.
jcanracer wrote: i just can't wait to see what the weight difference will be between the 2.0Rspec and the 3.8L version.

Those numbers are out there if you look for 'em.

jcanracer
jcanracer New Reader
3/10/09 12:02 p.m.

actually i just checked weights, the 2.0T is 3294lbs and the 3.8L is 3389lbs. I hope they can at least cull 100lbs or more for the R-Spec.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla Reader
3/10/09 12:08 p.m.

We can thank the federal gov't for the inflated weights. Considering the car has to carry so much crap onboard, pass a litany of crash safety ratings and tests, pass emissions for 50 states and a plethora of other crap..... That car could easily be 2800lbs if they'd let them build a sports coupe.

neon4891
neon4891 SuperDork
3/10/09 12:11 p.m.

Back to the original comparison, what other cars could you include in this? 300hp rwd coupes, 3k+ on the scales. Mustang, 135i, others?

Bobzilla
Bobzilla Reader
3/10/09 12:13 p.m.

new Camaro, challenger.

psteav
psteav GRM+ Memberand Reader
3/10/09 12:21 p.m.

Challenger is more of a boulevardier if you ask me. My parents just bought a new SE, which I put through its paces. Looks great, fantastic on the highway, decent brakes and handling for a 3600 lb barge. If you want a stick, you have to buy the Hemi (35k). The V6 is spunky, but it's no rocketship....I think I counted right at 7 sec to 60.

All in all, much more of a GT than a sports car. Although considering the majority of G37s and Genesises (that can't be gramatically correct, can it?) will be automatics and will never turn a wheel in anger, it's probably a fairly apt comparison for the non-enthusiast crowd.

neon4891
neon4891 SuperDork
3/10/09 12:31 p.m.
Bobzilla wrote: new Camaro, challenger.

Any hard figures for the new camero? I just hope this whole "situation" doesn't ruin it. And for the Challenger just isn't right for this, too big. 3600# for a 250hp v6. The v8's at 372hp and 425hp tip the scales at over 2 tons

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 HalfDork
3/10/09 12:35 p.m.
neon4891 wrote: Back to the original comparison, what other cars could you include in this? 300hp rwd coupes, 3k+ on the scales. Mustang, 135i, others?

I'd say IS350, if it weren't for that 2-door coupe thing....

P71
P71 GRM+ Memberand Dork
3/10/09 12:39 p.m.

300+HP 2-door sports coupes...

Nissan 370Z (V6), Infiniti G37 (V6), HYUNDAI Genesis (V6), Ford Mustang (V8!!!), Chevy Camaro (V6)

Anybody still want a Ford V8? I have one... cheap...

Bobzilla
Bobzilla Reader
3/10/09 12:48 p.m.

Nissan only seats 2.... that right there is an automatic deal breaker for me

John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/10/09 1:13 p.m.

If we are being fair, you would need a rear seat...

You could add AWD to the equation and invite Godzilla...

Bobzilla
Bobzilla Reader
3/10/09 1:15 p.m.

yEAH.... $77k or $27k.... you realize how many "upgrades" one could do to a GC with $50k....

John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/10/09 1:21 p.m.

V8 swap baybee.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla Reader
3/10/09 1:29 p.m.

All the mods you could imagine + tires + track time + money to take the wife on a nice cruise.

ReverendDexter
ReverendDexter Reader
3/10/09 1:31 p.m.
jcanracer wrote: actually i just checked weights, the 2.0T is 3294lbs and the 3.8L is 3389lbs. I hope they can at least cull 100lbs or more for the R-Spec.

Doubt it. If anything, the R-spec will be heavier than the plain-jane turbo 4, as it will use the larger brakes and heavier suspension components of the V6 model.

I do find it humerous that while Mustangs are viewed as heavy pigs, the V6 Mustang is actually the lightest of the current batch of RWD Coupes. And as soon as Ford gets off their ass and puts an aluminum block in the GTs, the V8s will be right in there weightwise, too.

PaulY
PaulY New Reader
3/10/09 1:37 p.m.
neon4891 wrote: that is the flatest Tq curve i have ever sceen. I think that a few of the gripes will be worked out a year or 2, so it will be better. But I also think that the 2.0T R spec is going to be the HOT model. Cheaper, lighter, and big gains from over-boost for cheep.

The Solstice gxp seems to have it beat in flatness since they designed the engine to control boost to keep it constant.

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