93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
11/10/11 9:33 p.m.

Ok so I basically have two choices I am looking at for my autocross car for next season. A '76 TR7 and a '87 Yugo.

TR7
Pros: It is a proper sports car with RWD
It is a Triumph (and I <3 British cars)
It is actually fairly rust free.
It has a 5-speed

Cons: It is a Triumph (ie electrical problems).
It doesn't have a title (so I will have to go thru the abandoned vehicle title process)
It isn't as close to running like it needs a motor swap and any other work that I know will pop up from sitting for at least 3 years.

Yugo Pros: Yugos are cool
I like that little Fiat motor
Only reason it isn't on the road is the guy was pulling the A/C and decided he would do the belts at the same time and hadn't gotten them yet.

Cons: FWD
Parts availability?

What does GRM think?

LainfordExpress
LainfordExpress Reader
11/10/11 9:38 p.m.

So I can't help but notice the obvious omission of "walking" from your list. You really should include it, because of the three it is the most likely to get you from Point A to Point B.

In all seriousness, go for the Triumph. It will cost you your scalp coverage, but it may be rewarding for up to fifteen minutes at a time.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
11/10/11 10:08 p.m.

Basically I guess it comes down to if the extra work of getting a title and fixing the extra things that will be wrong make it worth the RWD and the feel of a TR7 especially when I have a Spitfire to be working on anyway.

corytate
corytate HalfDork
11/11/11 8:51 a.m.

http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.wolfe/gallery/lemansTR7_1.jpg

VonSmallhausen
VonSmallhausen GRM+ Memberand Reader
11/11/11 9:17 a.m.

I thing the above is all you need to know But I vote TR7 cause they are still light little british sports cars, plus have a soft spot for them

ransom
ransom GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/11/11 9:45 a.m.

You know for a fact that you can't just drop another engine in the TR7. You have to go find a good 4 liter Rover V8. I guess that gives you something to do while waiting for the title...

Seriously, the TR7 wins, but I'd still might lean towards the Yugo unless you've got a lot more spare time than I do, and enough cash to keep both projects moving...

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 SuperDork
11/11/11 9:48 a.m.

Clearly, this is a no-brainer, so I am eminently well-qualified to offer my opinion: TR-7!

93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
11/11/11 10:05 a.m.
ransom wrote: Seriously, the TR7 wins, but I'd still might lean towards the Yugo unless you've got a *lot* more spare time than I do, and enough cash to keep both projects moving...

That is my exact problem. I like the TR7 more but it is going to require more time and more money then the Yugo. I would rather spend the extra time on my Spitfire since either of these car is going to get sold after the Spitfire is done. But the Spitfire is a long way off in terms of getting finished (hopefully by the end of next year) so finishing that before the start of the racing season is not an option. And having talked to a number of people about an abandoned vehicle title (which I would have to do for the TR7) it can take from 6 weeks to 6 months and 6 months is too long.

MG_Bryan
MG_Bryan Reader
11/11/11 10:11 a.m.

Are you getting any spares with the TR? Is the buy in lower than the Yugo? Based on what you've said, I'm kind of thinking the Yugo makes more sense. I'd still get the Triumph though

93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
11/11/11 10:15 a.m.
MG_Bryan wrote: Are you getting any spares with the TR? Is the buy in lower than the Yugo? Based on what you've said, I'm kind of thinking the Yugo makes more sense. I'd still get the Triumph though

I am getting the spare drivetrain from another car but maybe the whole other car (not sure on that yet). The TR7 is cheaper but by the time I added the cost of getting a title it would be the same price.

oldtin
oldtin Dork
11/11/11 10:24 a.m.

I've had a fleet of LBCs - as much as I like them, I'm oddly attracted to yugos/fiats

edited for hotlink weirdness

pinchvalve
pinchvalve GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/11/11 10:26 a.m.

You know the old saying: "The build quality on a Yugo is so bad, it almost makes a Triumph look good."

Ian F
Ian F SuperDork
11/11/11 10:40 a.m.
93EXCivic wrote: Ok so I basically have two choices I am looking at for my autocross car for next season. A '76 TR7 and a '87 Yugo. What does GRM think?

IMHO... neither of the above. Run your DD in auto-x (or see if you can co-drive) and put your time and money into the Spitfire.

...says the guy with way too many projects and toy cars to keep tabs on... hence why the E30 will be for sale.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
11/11/11 10:47 a.m.

Well the car is also serving two other purposes. One is to provide a backup car (probably neither is ideal) and the other is to have a car to take to the $2012 Challenge in case we don't get our Challenge car done.

I do have a lot of time on my hands. I work 7-4. Then I get home and have nothing to do. Then most weekends I either go visit my girlfriend or work on cars.

LainfordExpress
LainfordExpress Reader
11/11/11 11:52 a.m.

The "pros" for the Yugo seem... lackluster.

The TR7 is the winner because it'll feel special when it's done. I had a friend in high school that had one and it was pretty cool.

nocones
nocones GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
11/11/11 12:11 p.m.

I would imagine you could buy a Miata for the price of the TR7 + what it takes to make it right + tittle process..

I'm just saying..

93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
11/11/11 12:32 p.m.
nocones wrote: I would imagine you could buy a Miata for the price of the TR7 + what it takes to make it right + tittle process.. I'm just saying..

I could but I don't really care for Miatas. If I was going to do another common car, I would go with another Civic but I like odd.

nocones
nocones GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
11/11/11 1:23 p.m.

I hear that but you need easy cheap and no work while building the spit. And good resale for when the spit is done.
1. Biy miata. 2. Fix small things and race while building spit. 3. Sell for profit when spit done

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/11/11 1:31 p.m.

Get the Yugo, TR7s are ugly.

Vigo
Vigo Dork
11/11/11 10:29 p.m.

If you prioritize your existing spitfire project more highly than the tr7, i see NO reason to get the tr7. To me it is obvious you should get the yugo, put very little into it, enjoy it, and spend the rest of your resources on the spitfire project you consider important.

MG_Bryan
MG_Bryan Reader
11/11/11 10:35 p.m.
Vigo wrote: If you prioritize your existing spitfire project more highly than the tr7, i see NO reason to get the tr7. To me it is obvious you should get the yugo, put very little into it, enjoy it, and spend the rest of your resources on the spitfire project you consider important.

Beware this logic stuff. I"ve heard stories of it leading to good decisions.

Travis_K
Travis_K SuperDork
11/11/11 11:20 p.m.

Neither, there are tons of better cars on craigslist everyday. Can you find not too rusty Fiat 124 spiders there? In california they usually arent too terrible and are almost always cheap. I could have bought a sort of running (it was a garage find, but it would start)1974 with no rust but minor accident damage for like $450.

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