The new wrangler rubicon's curb weight is 4100 lbs in 2 door form. I was thinking they were somewhere in the 3200lb range max.
The new wrangler rubicon's curb weight is 4100 lbs in 2 door form. I was thinking they were somewhere in the 3200lb range max.
I guess I'm not surprised? Seemingly as with most new cars and weight creep, the current Jeeps have more sound insulation than ever before. Stronger axles, transfer cases...bigger wheels and tires, bigger brakes, stronger frame, thicker skid plates, increased crash protection/ offset frontal crash strengthening..... All adds up. On the plus side, a lot of it is stuff jeep people would have eventually bolted on to it anyway. Skids, sliders, plate bumpers, winches, roll bars. Modded older jeeps are probably easily over 4,100 lbs.
Even the first things to gain the Wrangler nameplate were close to that 3200 lbs. And newer cars only get heavier...
Yup, what rslifkin said, even the old ones are a lot heavier than you might think. The JKs are shockingly quiet for a Wrangler, so there's got to be a lot of sound insulation in there somewhere. Big wheels/tires, body on frame construction, heavy duty drivetrain components, ect - it all adds up.
The Wrangler also appears to have roughly doubled in size since the YJ.
All FCA vehicles tend to end up radically overweight. WHile I do like the Jeep redesign (sans the FCA rebadge) they are piggy beasts.
84FSP wrote: All [...] vehicles tend to end up radically overweight. While I do like [insert most any car here] redesign, they are piggy beasts.
FTFY.
Sarcasm aside, the rigidity of vehicles now days is pretty ridiculous compared to even the '90s. Then add in the fact that you can't buy stripper models anymore.
Not surprised big axles and bigger motor alone puts the weight up 200-300lb's over the old ones. The old ones were porky as well.
I guess im jaded with my 2500lb samurai with 500lbs of that being tires.
It's a cube... Why care about weight.
RossD wrote: Then add in the fact that you can't buy stripper models anymore.
PSA: Don't google "stripper models" at work
In reply to RossD:
A/C is actually still only an option for the wrangler. It doesnt actually come factory. though to be fair most dealership wont stock one without a/c.
how many airbags are in them? how many electrical modules? then you throw in necessary things that you can't live without like heated leather seats...
novaderrik wrote: heated leather seats...
This. The heated power leather seats in my ZJ are somewhere around 80 lbs each 
My 2012 2 door JK weighs 3750lbs. The only option was A/C. It's basically a "stripper" variant and is the lightest JK model.
It's still a body on frame vehicle with solid axles, which are heavy.
novaderrik wrote: how many airbags are in them? how many electrical modules? then you throw in necessary things that you can't live without like heated leather seats...
Airbags and electrical modules weigh surprisingly little.
However, you bet that they don't come with a Dana 30 front and 35 rear with 235/75 tires anymore.
And I thought my girlfriends xj was heavy at 3500lbs
Just think, CJ's ran around 2400 lbs. Shorter wheelbase and narrower track plus no floor mats or sound insulation. 75hp 4 cyl. engine.
Ah progress.
But they were SLOW.
In reply to chiodos:
The XJ is also a unibody, Wranglers are still body on frame. Makes a decent difference in weight.
Also a new Wrangler is a lot bigger than an XJ. Seriously, they're huge.
In reply to Knurled:
its still a d30 up front unless you go to the rubicon. factory tire size is 225/70r16.
The Wrangler has gotten big enough that I wonder if a smaller economy oriented Jeep that's comparable to an old CJ5 would sell, 3000lbs (probably unibody), one or two 4 cylinder engines, etc.
In reply to BrokenYugo:
like the current Suzuki Jimny or the Troller T4(btw ford now owns Toller)?
It's the reason my 4-door Rubi performs about the same and gets about the same mileage as my old '98 XJ. Even though it has 95 more hp and is supposed to be their most efficient engine ever.
MrChaos wrote: The new wrangler rubicon's curb weight is 4100 lbs in 2 door form. I was thinking they were somewhere in the 3200lb range max.
3200?? Hell my 85 911 is around that. Not surprised a modern Wrangler is heavier.
MrChaos wrote: In reply to BrokenYugo: like the current Suzuki Jimny or the Troller T4(btw ford now owns Toller)?
Pretty much, keep it stick axle on both ends (becasue people would expect it), and convertible only. Crank windows, manual transfer case, ~85" wheelbase, ~60" wide, 30+ MPG highway, one auto trans, one manual trans, maybe optional turbocharged engine. Starting price in the mid-high teens.
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