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Vajingo
Vajingo New Reader
8/2/20 8:52 p.m.

The junkyard thread got me thinking- how many DIFFERENT manufacturer components can you connect to each other? 
 

the rules:

1)nuts and bolts, universal stuff like that doesn't count (but obviously needs to be present!)

2) by "manufacturer", I mean separate corporations. So you cant have a mordern Cadillac engine>Chevy bellhousing>Pontiac transmission. That's all GM. (Were going to put DSM in this category too)
 

so, for instance, Chevy engine>Ford bellhousing> dodge transmission> toyota driveshaft>ford axle>Mitsubishi wheels. 
 

something like that. I just love seeing different  parts work together. Also- doesn't have to make sense. It could be a 3 cylinder geo engine with a Ford 8spd, in a Toyota pickup. As long as it all bolts together in real life with no fabrication or aftermarket parts, it's good. 

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
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8/2/20 9:23 p.m.

My background in hot rod and custom shops might give me an unfair advantage.  My buddy and I built a Model A pickup.  The custom shop we were working for was moving, so we sold a bunch of parts, but not before Kraft (me) and SpaGetty (Spencer Getty) built a wicked little abomination.

The only thing we bought was the cab.

Frame: 58 Belvedere.  It was a frame that we had replaced because it was rotted in the middle.  Since we were shortening it, we were able to cut out the rot and stitch it back together.

Engine: leftover random smogger 350

Trans: one of the rarest iterations of a TH350 ever... a dual (chevy/BOP) bolt pattern TH350.  I have only ever seen 2 in my life, and the internet is so skeptical that they think it doesn't exist.

Rear: Ford 8" from a Mustang 2

Steering box: 61 Olds

Steering column: late 50s Caddy sedan.  It was way too long and it put the steering wheel about 4" from your nose.

Seats: Greyhound bus.  They were that gray upholstery with the red and orange squares in it.

Front suspension: completely fabricated  with some schedule 40 2" pipe and a very unhappy tubing bender and half a tank of acetylene.  Welded on some trailer spindles and stole some 1-3/8" hubs off a boat trailer with a 5x4.5 pattern.  Wheels were Mustang steelies.

Rear suspension.  It sorta had one.  More 2" schedule 40 pipe made some truck arms which were welded and gusseted to the axle.  The springs were homemade redneck coil overs.... air assist shocks with those truck helper springs that clamp on the outside.  It was frighteningly under sprung.

The master cylinder was something from the junk pile that we honed out and got working.  We guessed 50s Pontiac.  We knew it was the early GM single master, and it had an arrowhead on the cap.  It was so inadequate that we ended up hooking it just to the front and moved the pushrod up on the brake pedal.  As long as it wasn't wet, gravel, or anything other than stopping like a grandmother, you were fine.  Panic braking just locked them up and sent you screaming into a near-death situation.

Radiator:  We never figured out what it was.  It was a downflow brass/copper thing that we thought was an early Mustang, but it was smaller.  It was also grossly under sized.  We could go about 10 miles before it boiled over.

Gas tank was a 5 gallon boat gas tank sitting in the bed.  The bed was completely fabricated  by SpaGetty.

There might be 10 more manufacturers in there.  At one point we were so desperate for steel to fab brackets that we found random cutoffs in corners that might have been from notching the frame of a Lada for an LS dragster we did, or a piece of a sway bar from a Fargo pickup we customized.

He took it home and put it on ebay and we got $14k for it.  Never would have made $14k selling all those individual parts.  I just emailed him and asked for a picture.

So, that car had GM, Mopar, Ford, whatever the radiator was (probably a tractor), seats from MCI, gas tank from OMC, and maybe Lada and Fargo (which is technically Mopar)

Patrick (Forum Supporter)
Patrick (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/2/20 9:34 p.m.

Pretty sure some early 80's AMC products could win from the factory.  They parts bin engineered from everywhere 

Vajingo
Vajingo New Reader
8/2/20 9:36 p.m.

In reply to Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) :

That's cool. But did it all bolt together without further adaptation or fabrication or aftermarket parts? Maybe my post wasn't as clear as I wanted it to be. Sorry if I mislead anyone. 
 

looking for stuff that bolts together in a factory, or almost factory way. No fab, cutting, welding, or adapters. 

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
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8/2/20 9:36 p.m.

In reply to Patrick (Forum Supporter) :

I'll never forget the first time I got in a Jeep and realized it had the GM "smart stalk" turn signal stick.  Mind blown.

AMC bolt patterns are still used today, even through the Daimler years.  You can still get a jeep with an AMC bolt pattern.  I find it funny that you can have this super-modern Mercedes transmission that was re-cast to have an AMC bolt pattern from the 60s so the transmissions will work in the Jeep.

Vajingo
Vajingo New Reader
8/2/20 9:37 p.m.

In reply to Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) :

That's crazy! Didn't know they did that on jeeps!

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/2/20 9:40 p.m.

Yup.  Back when AMC and Jeep were merging (late 70s?) Jeep had been sourcing some parts from GM and it continued through the early 90s.  Basically until Mopar bought it all.

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
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8/2/20 9:43 p.m.

The Buick V8 from the 60s was bought by Rover, so up through (forget the year, but not that long ago) you could get a Rover with a Buick engine that was designed in 1961.  I think the bolt pattern became unique at some point, but Jatco (who makes transmissions for Rover) re-cast their bellhousings to match up to an American V8.

Vajingo
Vajingo New Reader
8/2/20 9:45 p.m.

In reply to Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) :

I bet there are all kinds of combinations you could do with that rover v8! 

Patrick (Forum Supporter)
Patrick (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/2/20 9:46 p.m.

In reply to Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) :

Apparently the ticket for bolting a ford t5 to an sbc is a 4 cylinder jeep bellhousing because they used an iron duke with a ford pattern transmission 

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/2/20 9:48 p.m.

I'm currently digging into the Jeep/AMC/Daimler/Mopar familly.  There is a LOT of mix-n-match stuff that can happen there.  There are old slant 6 Mopars from the 60s that can bolt up to a brand new Mercedes transmission, and there are some modern Jeeps that could bolt to a 727 trans from the 60s.

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/2/20 9:49 p.m.

Ooo... IH and Mopar had some fun mixes.  The IH bolt pattern was unique, but they bought 727s from Mopar that were cast with the IH pattern.

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/2/20 9:50 p.m.

With minimal modification (well, relatively minimal) you can put LS heads on a Windsor/Cleveland Ford.

Donebrokeit
Donebrokeit UltraDork
8/2/20 9:58 p.m.

I know during the mid 2000's G.M and Dodge ram trucks shared the same tail light circuit boards in the trucks.

 

The G.M and Chrysler Pentastar engines are almost the same and might bolt up.

 

The Dodge "L" body cars used V.W trailing axle  and rear struts, early Omni even had VW parts numbers and logos on them.

 

Early 80's Omnis used VW engines with Chrysler transmission. 

 

Some Mitsubishi V6 DOHC engines bolt up to certain Chrysler transmission,  not a big surprise. 

 

 

Javelin (Forum Supporter)
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8/2/20 10:00 p.m.
Patrick (Forum Supporter) said:

Pretty sure some early 80's AMC products could win from the factory.  They parts bin engineered from everywhere 

Make that 70's and yup. My old Javelin was factory built with an AMC V8 to a Chrysler 727 TorqueFlite transmission and I swapped in a Ford 8.8 rear axle that literally bolted in. The steering column was from GM and the ignition system was from Ford from the factory.

Donebrokeit
Donebrokeit UltraDork
8/2/20 10:01 p.m.

The Supra trans can be bolted to the 2.2/2.5 Chrysler engine using a Dakota bell housing. 

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
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8/2/20 10:10 p.m.
Javelin (Forum Supporter) said:
Patrick (Forum Supporter) said:

Pretty sure some early 80's AMC products could win from the factory.  They parts bin engineered from everywhere 

Make that 70's and yup. My old Javelin was factory built with an AMC V8 to a Chrysler 727 TorqueFlite transmission and I swapped in a Ford 8.8 rear axle that literally bolted in. The steering column was from GM and the ignition system was from Ford from the factory.

Many people don't know that the Ford 8.8" is a direct corporate ripoff of GM's 12 bolt.  They changed just barely enough to not get sued, but if you tear one of each apart, they are nearly identical, right down to some of the ribs in the castings.

03Panther
03Panther HalfDork
8/2/20 10:12 p.m.

In reply to Patrick (Forum Supporter) :

Didn't AMC stand for all motors combined?

03Panther
03Panther HalfDork
8/2/20 10:18 p.m.
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) said:

With minimal modification (well, relatively minimal) you can put LS heads on a Windsor/Cleveland Ford.

Tell us more about ls heads on a Windsor!! Prolly not worth it, but I remember when a "cle- vor" was  - almost - worth doing.

Donebrokeit
Donebrokeit UltraDork
8/2/20 10:19 p.m.

The G.M 4.3 bolts in to certain land rover's. I seem to recall a member here doing this.

bluej (Forum Supporter)
bluej (Forum Supporter) UberDork
8/2/20 10:25 p.m.

Ford and Mazda cut a broad swath with the duratec/mzr "L" engine. Both did factory turbo options based off of it, too (speed3 and Ecoboost).

I'm about to use a bunch of later ranger and NC Miata parts to put a fusion 2.5 into my e30. The goal was to keep the powerplant as bolt together as possible, so fab happens on the chassis end.

Vajingo
Vajingo New Reader
8/3/20 1:05 a.m.

In reply to bluej (Forum Supporter) :

That is really neat to know. 

djsilver (Forum Supporter)
djsilver (Forum Supporter) Reader
8/3/20 7:15 a.m.

This won't work for engines and transmissions, but it will give you interchange information for accessories and other parts you could normally pick up at an auto parts supply.  Go to OreillyAuto and look up a part for your car.  Now scroll down and check the "compatibility" button and it will give you a list of all the different makes/models/years of vehicles that part was used on.  

For historical perspective, this is the database that PartsAmerica had when it existed and AdvanceAuto was a part of.  OreillyAuto bought out PartsAmerica parent and dumped AdvanceAuto, so now OreillyAuto has the database.  It's the best free interchange list I've found on the net.  Hollander is more complete, but you have to pay for it.

Apexcarver
Apexcarver UltimaDork
8/3/20 8:05 a.m.

BMW K motorcycle head with some modification fits BMC A series.  The want to do eventually is growing...

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
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8/3/20 8:28 a.m.
03Panther said:
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) said:

With minimal modification (well, relatively minimal) you can put LS heads on a Windsor/Cleveland Ford.

Tell us more about ls heads on a Windsor!! Prolly not worth it, but I remember when a "cle- vor" was  - almost - worth doing.

Totally not worth doing in my opinion, other than a conversation piece.

https://www.theturboforums.com/threads/ls1-heads-on-a-sbf-yes-they-fit.324772/

 

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