oldeskewltoy
oldeskewltoy Reader
8/24/10 5:56 p.m.

Just the best snow tires ever!

my first experience with them was on my 70 1800E, in northern NJ, during the early/mid 80s

So back to my own question... I've used the 09, the 10, the "Q", and I now have a set of the 4s. How many different Nokia/Nokian Hakkapeliitta tyres have you used?????

iceracer
iceracer Dork
8/24/10 6:05 p.m.

None, I have stuck with Blizzaks,starting with the WS15. Can't beat four snow tires regardless of brand.

NOHOME
NOHOME Reader
8/24/10 6:07 p.m.

Better than blizzacks? I have known of them for some time, but no experience.

oldeskewltoy
oldeskewltoy Reader
8/24/10 6:10 p.m.

MUCH better than Blizzaks.....

oh... 4 is the ONLY safe way to go......

NOHOME
NOHOME Reader
8/24/10 6:14 p.m.

Says who?

Fit_Is_Slo
Fit_Is_Slo Reader
8/24/10 7:27 p.m.

What is a snow tire?

oldeskewltoy
oldeskewltoy Reader
8/24/10 7:31 p.m.
NOHOME wrote: Says who?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us%3AIE-SearchBox&q=%22best+snow+tire%22+blizzak+nokian&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF6q41akx7g - Blizzak

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9H55VX-Lec&feature=related - Nokians

learn for yourself... and YOU decide

plance1 wrote: sooooooo let me guess, you sell tires for a living?

nope.... just like to have the best tire I can under me

depending on tire size, you can have as little as 2-3 square foot of contact patch for a 2000# projectile.

plance1
plance1 Dork
8/24/10 8:16 p.m.

sooooooo let me guess, you sell tires for a living?

mw
mw HalfDork
8/24/10 9:11 p.m.

I've used the 1996, 01, and 03's. They are a better snow tire than blizzaks, but I don't think they are a better ice tire IMHO

DaveEstey
DaveEstey Reader
8/24/10 9:18 p.m.

I use Nordmans, they're outstanding diggers.

neckromacr
neckromacr Reader
8/24/10 10:43 p.m.

I switched up to Continental Extreme Winters this past year, when I decided to go back to 14's for the snow. I was quite impressed with their ability to handle the long periods of dry and redonkulous snow dumps the Philly area had.

Priced really well too.

heyduard
heyduard New Reader
8/25/10 12:16 a.m.

I recently bought hankook iPikes. They supposedly licensed the Nokian tread pattern. before that, I had the dunlop wintersport M3's

monark192
monark192 Reader
8/25/10 12:23 a.m.
Fit_Is_Slo wrote: What is a snow tire?

What's snow?

NOHOME
NOHOME Reader
8/25/10 1:03 a.m.

OK, so you have officially bummed me out making me think of winter driving!

I do like my blizzacks and I do make a point of tossing them every other year (15k is all I ask of a set) cause I think that the magic wears out. I think of them as winter R compounds and they got me thorugh 13 years of driving a Miata in the winter. Actually enjoyed driving in the snow most of the time.

If the Hakapellitas are actually abetter tire, then I am missing out on some fun.

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 Reader
8/25/10 6:49 a.m.

The all-season radial heralded the death of the "snow tire" back in what, the 70's? Last car I owned that I ran snow tires on was a '76 Olds Cutlass Supreme. What a barge that was, and boy, did it need snow tires.

I should add that here in central VA, we rarely get accumulating snow, although last winter was an exception. Some of you guys up in the frozen north might still need snow tires, but they'd be useless to me.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy HalfDork
8/25/10 8:18 a.m.

Haka-hakkas, 05s,08s, 09s, and WR are on my list. As to being the best, back in the 70's, yes.

81gtv6
81gtv6 GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
8/25/10 8:26 a.m.

I got a pair of Nokians on some wheels I purchased, the other two wheels had Blizzacks. All 4 were at the end of thier life so I really can't say which was better. With the last car I bought the dealer threw in a set of alloy wheels and new Goodyear snows, they are not that great and I will not be getting those as replacements.

Powar
Powar Dork
8/25/10 8:28 a.m.

None of them.

Tom Heath
Tom Heath Webmaster
8/25/10 9:03 a.m.

I had Nokian Hakka-something-or-anothers on my STI a few years back. Better than Blizzaks, by a margin IMHO.

Lemme say it this way: If I were ever to rob a bank, I'd do it during a blizzard and use that car with those tires for the getaway. Nothing more capable in the city of Detroit, 'cept maybe a snowmobile.

Platinum90
Platinum90 SuperDork
8/25/10 9:30 a.m.
heyduard wrote: I recently bought hankook iPikes. They supposedly licensed the Nokian tread pattern. before that, I had the dunlop wintersport M3's

That's the back tire isn't it? I hope so.

I had those same tires on my Crown Vic. I think AussieSMG is still using them.

They were the best winter tire for the money.

Good thing I moved to the land of no snow. I love it down here!

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
8/26/10 12:34 a.m.

The Wife's car has been on Dunlop Graspics since we bought it. I used Goodyear Ultra Ice on my Escort Blizzaks I bought from Ice racer on my Cavalier. My favorites are the Dunlops, but it could be that the car is heavy and big enough to be unstopable in the snow. They also seem to wear like iron. The Blizzaks are a close second but the car is kinda low and gets stuck in some of the deeper snow. The GoodYears wore out to fast for someone that does alot of driving. Some winters I'd need to replace them halfway through

Keith
Keith GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
8/26/10 1:40 a.m.
1988RedT2 wrote: The all-season radial heralded the death of the "snow tire" back in what, the 70's? Last car I owned that I ran snow tires on was a '76 Olds Cutlass Supreme. What a barge that was, and boy, did it need snow tires. I should add that here in central VA, we rarely get accumulating snow, although last winter was an exception. Some of you guys up in the frozen north might still need snow tires, but they'd be useless to me.

As snow is still slippery even in modern times, snow tires are still just as important in their element as race tires are in their own. In fact, they're required in Quebec. "All season" simply means "compromise tire that doesn't really excel at anything". You get indifferent traction all year round. When I lived in Canada, I had two sets of tires for everything and had much better traction everywhere because of it. Here in the Colorado desert, I have a set of snow tires for the Jeep as it's the vehicle that does ski and snowshoe duty. Unfortunately not Nokians.

I've always considered the Blizzak an ice tire. "Winter R compound" is a good way to look at it, as they rely on their rubber compound for grip. Snow's different stuff though. The Nokians (I've run a couple of sets of the 1) are much better snow tires and also last a whole lot longer. My parents run them on their Subaru, and like Tom said that setup bows to nothing but a snowmobile.

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