docwyte
docwyte UberDork
12/10/20 10:33 a.m.

Need one to drop the motor/tranny out of my 911.  Harbor Freight is out of stock, which stinks.  So I'm left buying one off Amazon or eBay.  Any recommendations for which brand is decent?  Pake, Giant Move, GoPlus, any others?

APEowner
APEowner GRM+ Memberand Dork
12/10/20 10:44 a.m.

I don't have a brand recommendation but I do recommend that you look at a motorcycle lift as opposed to a smaller unit purchased for the one task. My motorcycle lift is probably the most used tool in my shop. It's my primary work bench.  I can load and unload heavy stuff from the pickup truck.  I can wheel stuff on and off of it with the hand truck.  I need to do an initial lift with other tools but I can put my Formula Ford on it. I sometimes even work on motorcycles on it.

RevRico
RevRico GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
12/10/20 10:48 a.m.

Having found a used harbor freight one, I'd try getting it online unless you need it like *today*. 

Surprisingly versatile, and a game changer for someone who works solo. Awesome at emptying truck beds of heavy stuff.

docwyte
docwyte UberDork
12/10/20 10:58 a.m.

In reply to RevRico :

Harbor Freight won't let me buy one online, in store only. 

APEOwner,I can't fit a motorcycle lift underneath my 4 post lift to hold the motor, it's way too big.  I specifically need a hydraulic lift table...

Slippery (Forum Supporter)
Slippery (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
12/10/20 11:00 a.m.

In reply to docwyte :

I think he meant this:

docwyte
docwyte UberDork
12/10/20 11:03 a.m.

In reply to Slippery (Forum Supporter) :

That's not going to hold a 911 engine and transmission. 

Slippery (Forum Supporter)
Slippery (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
12/10/20 11:06 a.m.
docwyte said:

In reply to Slippery (Forum Supporter) :

That's not going to hold a 911 engine and transmission. 

Not with attitude it won't, lol. 

docwyte
docwyte UberDork
12/10/20 11:16 a.m.

In reply to Slippery (Forum Supporter) :

Aircooled motor doesn't weigh what my water cooled, twin turbocharged with transmission does.  Also totally uncomfortable putting $20k worth of powertrain on a motorcycle jack.

Slippery (Forum Supporter)
Slippery (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
12/10/20 12:04 p.m.

Not trying to be a dick but the weight is no problem. Now if you claim that you are afraid of being able to properly balance it, that's another story. You can probably get away with a tranny jack on the front like the pic below (I know its a Carrera but the turbo is not that much heavier). 

Just trying to help with your problem here. 

Engine and tranny are 730 lbs wet, oil cooler included. 

Robbie (Forum Supporter)
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12/10/20 12:09 p.m.
docwyte
docwyte UberDork
12/10/20 12:10 p.m.

Hmmm.....

93gsxturbo
93gsxturbo SuperDork
12/10/20 12:22 p.m.

If I can pull out a 6 foot long F350 manual trans with transfer case attached with a HF motorcycle jack you can certainly pull out compact engine and transaxle.  

californiamilleghia
californiamilleghia SuperDork
12/10/20 12:32 p.m.

I like these but the wheels / casters look too small if you need to pull it out  from under the car ,  with the motor / trans on it 

 

docwyte
docwyte PowerDork
12/10/20 12:35 p.m.

In reply to californiamilleghia :

I had one of those when I had my motorcycles, HF has really increased their prices on them, used to be $279 for one.  They're huge, take up a lot of space in the garage.  They also don't roll that well.  If I'm forced to buy one for this job I'll have to sell it shortly after I'm done with it, I simply don't have the space to store it in my garage...

APEowner
APEowner GRM+ Memberand Dork
12/10/20 12:40 p.m.
Robbie (Forum Supporter) said:

If its used as a workbench too its gotta be more like this:

https://www.harborfreight.com/1000-lb-steel-motorcycle-lift-68892.html?cid=paid_google|*PLA+-+Top+SKUs+-+All+%28Main%29|Motorcycle+Lift|68892&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=*PLA+-+Top+SKUs+-+All+%28Main%29&utm_content=Motorcycle+Lift&gclid=CjwKCAiAq8f-BRBtEiwAGr3DgZ6QOWiMBgsKysUmkpUPjW_C-30nHL6PkvKG_T7vicNWWAN1D8TN9RoCf-YQAvD_BwE

Other than that, I have no feedback on which hydraulic lift tables are good or not. 

This is what I was recomending.  I've never used it on a Porsche drivetrain but I've pulled Corvair drive trains with mine and I'm pretty sure it would fit lenghtwise under most 4 post lifts.  here it is after pulling a Corvair engine.

 

 

I don't use engine stands anymore and instead rebuild engines on this bench with some bolts stuck in the bellhousing bolt holes

It may not fit in your shop or your work flow but as you can see I use the heck out of mine.  It's probably 20 years old now and I bought it used.  I have no idea who the manufacturer is.

pinchvalve (Forum Supporter)
pinchvalve (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/10/20 2:26 p.m.

I have one of those ATV lifts. It includes "outriggers" and tie-down points that has allowed it to lower all kinds of funky stuff like a 4AGE from under an MR2.

paddygarcia
paddygarcia GRM+ Memberand New Reader
12/10/20 2:39 p.m.

If you have clearence through the lift to drop the motor you can use a fixed table with wheels and use the lift to move the car off the engine vs letting the engine down from the car.

I built the rolly bench with this job in mind after watching my Porsche mechanic drop an engine this way. Don't intend to do another but now I have a rolly bench.

APEowner
APEowner GRM+ Memberand Dork
12/10/20 2:58 p.m.
paddygarcia said:

If you have clearence through the lift to drop the motor you can use a fixed table with wheels and use the lift to move the car off the engine vs letting the engine down from the car.

I built the rolly bench with this job in mind after watching my Porsche mechanic drop an engine this way. Don't intend to do another but now I have a rolly bench.

You know, I didn't even think about this but really, not only does the the table not need to go up and down, it doesn't even need to roll if you have an engine hoist.  Lift the car off the driveline and use the hoist to put it wherever.  Also, back in the '80s when I worked as a tech we would drop FWD cradles by setting 4 jackstands under them and lifting the car.

Robbie (Forum Supporter)
Robbie (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
12/10/20 3:43 p.m.

Could also just set the engine down on top of the rolling toolbox. 

docwyte
docwyte PowerDork
12/10/20 4:40 p.m.

Found one of the HF jack tables in stock.  It's 43 miles away from me but I'm going to grab it tomorrow am.  While a rolling tool box/heavy duty table would work, I don't have space for them in my garage once the job is done.  Utility of them at that point is severely impacted.

 

APEowner
APEowner GRM+ Memberand Dork
12/10/20 4:53 p.m.

In the time honored tradition of the internet we've done an amazing job of not even coming close to answering Doc's original question.

docwyte
docwyte PowerDork
12/10/20 4:59 p.m.

In reply to APEowner :

I was going to point that out but figured it'd be a waste of time.  laugh

paddygarcia
paddygarcia GRM+ Memberand New Reader
12/10/20 5:34 p.m.
APEowner said:

In the time honored tradition of the internet we've done an amazing job of not even coming close to answering Doc's original question.

We're lucky to have an old-fashioned hardware store in my little town. Most of the time when I ask for something they ask what I'm doing. Often the suggestion is better than the idea I went in with.

Paul_VR6 (Forum Supporter)
Paul_VR6 (Forum Supporter) Dork
12/13/20 7:40 p.m.

In for pics I need a better way to get engine/trans combos out with my four post. 

dxman92
dxman92 Dork
12/13/20 10:37 p.m.
APEowner said:

In the time honored tradition of the internet we've done an amazing job of not even coming close to answering Doc's original question.

That is the GRM way!

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