Hyundai Gets It

I'd rather do rear disc brakes 3 times than do drum brakes once. But rear drums are still not a deal 'braker'.

My Hyundai disc brake, parking brake will not let me take off with it engaged no matter how many times I try.

My sexy aluminum rear drums.

In reply to DILYSI Dave: Those look cool - what are they on?

Veloster is on the Accent platform, same drivetrain.

New Accent looks to have Cruise standard, but AC, PW, PL and XM is part of the $1700 conv pkg. I priced it last night, $14550 with the 6spd manual.

The New 4dr hatch has my interest, but I imagine the cost will rise with it.

tuna55 wrote: In reply to DILYSI Dave: Those look cool - what are they on?

I know 1G CRX HF's had aluminum drums. From the look of that suspension it's definitely Honda.

While they can look cool, weigh less and everything else that has been stated I totally agree with RossD on this one. I hate messing around with all of the springs, getting the drums off the car and everything else. For me it is a huge plus if a car has disks all the way around.

that a ferrari drum? I can see it uses splines for a knock off and the car is a tasty red.. and that drum is damn sexy

PubBurgers wrote:

tuna55 wrote: In reply to DILYSI Dave: Those look cool - what are they on?

I know 1G CRX HF's had aluminum drums. From the look of that suspension it's definitely Honda.

Yep. HF drums on my Civic.

mad_machine:

I think it is from an Alfa but I am not sure. I found it in this thread doing a Google search for finned drums: Lots of sexy red cars here

Discs or drums do not matter to me, both are rather easy to work on.

I agree that Hyundai is pumping out some pretty nice, small cars. Unfortunately the Elantra is only available with the manual trans on the base model (Just like the new Focus ) An updated Elantra Touring may have been on my shortlist if it had the new Elantra powertrain.

I made a vow to myself to never buy another car with drums. Maintenance is painless with disks, and for me that more than offsets any extra cost. Using ABS or manually modulating the brake pedal with drums gets you nowhere. Drums are self-energizing (either on or off). Once the rear wheels stop, it takes a lot longer for the drums to disengage than disks. I see this as a safety issue.

People like what they're familiar with. I grew up with drums (my first car had 4 wheel drums), so doing a drum brake job is easy for me. I've had nothing but bad experiences with rear disc brakes.

Hyundai is the new Honda. They make pleasant looking cars that are reliable, economical and not so bad to drive.

Here's the real reason Hyundai "Get's it"

Lightest weight, more power.... what is there to not love?

Bobzilla wrote: Here's the real reason Hyundai "Get's it" Lightest weight, more power.... what is there to not love?

Best power to weight ratio, yes. Lightest weight, no. The Mazda 2 is 90 lbs lighter according to your chart.

MG_Bryan wrote:

Bobzilla wrote: Here's the real reason Hyundai "Get's it" Lightest weight, more power.... what is there to not love?

Best power to weight ratio, yes. Lightest weight, no. The Mazda 2 is 90 lbs lighter according to your chart.

Convince Mazda to put a 150hp 1.6L DOHC in the 2.

Considering this platform is also used for hte Veloster which has been confirmed to get the 208hp 1.6L GDI-Turbo..... I don't see a problem for an upgrade here.

Since you're comparing 2012 subcompacts, add the Sonic in there at 138 hp/148 lb/ft torque

what's the sonic? Who makes it?

Isn't it a second generation Aveo?

Yes it is and I fit nicely in all positions of the car.

My son and I were impressed with the preview Sonics at the Toronto auto show in February.

Fun fact: they have a sunglasses holder over the driver's door (where other positions get a grab handle.) This strikes me as an answer looking for a question, but it's certainly different. And possibly handy. I guess.

I'll take drums if I can get rid of the back doors!

Funny, people like what they like. My first few cars had four wheel drums, which is exactly why I will only buy four wheel disc brakes now. I may never notice on the street in a modern car, but I still remember wet drum brakes, no likey.