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DrBoost
DrBoost PowerDork
4/14/13 10:11 a.m.

For those that haven't been following the mini saga of my new garage lift (my wife hinted that there might be some of you that don't hang on my every word. Weird.), I picked up this lift last week from a local place.
I had a failure of one of the cylinders about 30 seconds into operation, not cool. That did illustrate why I like to deal locally though, not through the interwebs. I had a place to go to and talk to a guy face-to-face. Plus, I think it would have been exceedingly difficult to fit the new cylinder through the interweb pipes that connect our computers.
Anyway, after replacing the cylinder I discovered that my car (1999 Golf, stock susp and wheel/tires) wouldn't fit. The lift was 1.5" taller than the specifications stated. Basically, there used to be a tapered bolt that went down through the arm and the lift plate and was fastened from underneath. Too many consumers couldn't figure that out. HUH? You have the mechanical abilities to need/use a lift but you can't figure that out!?!? Anyway, they replaced it with this part

It goes in from the bottom, and there is a nut and washers that go on from the top. That stud is what sticks up 1.5" proud of the arm. I'm going to buy some tapered-head bolts to replace that assembly to get the stack height back to 4.75" since that's what they used to use.

So, I finally got the Golf on the lift after laying some 2"X10' planks on either side, notching a clearance channel for the hydraulic hose. I used the lowest profile pad in the front, the next step up in the rear. I was able to get the centerline of the hubs 45" from the floor with the lift resting on one of the locks. I was able to change the oil while sitting on my butt-creeper and rotate tires/inspect brakes while standing. Man that's nice to be able to do that again!!

I snapped some pics, but sorry, my battery went dead before I got pics of the rear and center.
Here's the front, I have 100% clear access to the subframe bolts and everything ahead of the door openings.

sorry for the bad pic, it was hard to get.
The rear is basically the same. Rear suspension work or RWD axle work will be no problem at all. Getting to a RWD trans or a driveshaft will be tough. You can use the spacers to gain clearance between the lift and undercarriage, but you need more garage height than I have to do that.
So, what do you get for $1500? Well, the 6,000 pound capacity lift that goes 48" high and most cars will drive over with no problem. It also comes with the hydraulic hose and safety release cable to make it work and plenty of pads/adapters. Here's an over all shot of the adapters that come with it

Here's some closer shots

I made just about every compromise in purchasing this lift, but I have no regrets. I want what I used to work on in the dealership, a 9,000 pound twin-post that get's the car into the clouds. I didn't have the garage for that. The next most desirable was a flush mounted scissor lift with NOTHING between the sides like this

but I didn't have the $5,000+ to spend, or the garage height (this has a 72" lift height). The Max Jax would have dominated my garage, effectively turning it into a 1-car shop because I knew I wouldn't want to drag the posts out and bolt them in to change the oil on my car. So I'll live with this until I get another house with a real garage.

If there is anyone in the area that wants to check it out, or even try it out lemme know.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/14/13 11:14 a.m.

Congratulations on your elevation Keep us up to date on how it is over a longer period.

nicksta43
nicksta43 Dork
4/14/13 11:19 a.m.

Nice! Now I wish I had a garage. I wonder how good that thing will work on a gravel driveway

m4ff3w
m4ff3w GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
4/14/13 11:57 a.m.

Very nice. I'm glad you figured it out.

dj06482
dj06482 GRM+ Memberand Dork
4/14/13 12:27 p.m.

Glad you were able to sort out the clearance issue!

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/14/13 4:07 p.m.

Good job! Yes, please keep us updated and get us some more photos. I've been seriously considering one of these for a longtime and at that price, it's getting hard to resist.

DrBoost
DrBoost PowerDork
4/14/13 5:22 p.m.
Woody wrote: Good job! Yes, please keep us updated and get us some more photos. I've been seriously considering one of these for a longtime and at that price, it's getting hard to resist.

Will do. Having only used it a little bit, I can say it's more than worth the $1500. The only reason I would hesitate is if I figured I'd be removing lots of RWD transmissions. A driveshaft is doable though.

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/14/13 5:32 p.m.

I'm imagining removing 911 engines and transmissions with one.

noddaz
noddaz GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
4/14/13 5:52 p.m.
DrBoost wrote: Basically, there used to be a tapered bolt that went down through the arm and the lift plate and was fastened from underneath.

So are these tapered bolts available as a replacement parts? Buy these (if possible) and install and then less clearance problems for you. And that you for the write up... I need something....

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/14/13 7:48 p.m.

Also...Thanks for mentioning Max Jax in your other thread.

Junkyard_Dog
Junkyard_Dog Dork
4/14/13 9:14 p.m.

What is the manufacturer? I went to the link but didn't see it.

DrBoost
DrBoost PowerDork
4/17/13 8:58 a.m.

In reply to Junkyard_Dog: I dunno. Sorry.
An update. I went to the place I bought it from and told them to come get it, I don't want it. I might have 3 minutes of run time on the motor and I've had a cylinder blow out, a hose start spewing, and the reservoir FELL OFF the power unit, spilling about 2-3 gallons of hydraulic oil.
I'm getting the Bend Pak 48" Midrise scissor lift. Same basic design, appears to be better quality.

Unless you guys are sick of hearing my talk about cheap garage lifts, I'll post a comparo and my thoughts on the two lifts when I get it? Should be about 2 weeks.

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/17/13 9:02 a.m.

Sorry to hear that it's not working out, but definitely keep us updated.

Mitchell
Mitchell SuperDork
4/17/13 9:05 a.m.

Dang! That is a bummer. Well, if nothing else, it can serve as a cautionary tale to the rest of us. Good luck with the Bend Pak.

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
4/17/13 9:10 a.m.

Buddy of mine recently got this unit (or may have been the 220v version). It's been AWESOME.

http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Atlas-EM06-Portable-6-000-lb-Mid-Rise-Scissor-Lift

Might be worth looking into?

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury MegaDork
4/17/13 9:38 a.m.

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury MegaDork
4/17/13 9:44 a.m.
Swank Force One wrote: Buddy of mine recently got this unit (or may have been the 220v version). It's been AWESOME. http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Atlas-EM06-Portable-6-000-lb-Mid-Rise-Scissor-Lift Might be worth looking into?

For the same cash, Id be quite interested in This Lift

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
4/17/13 9:46 a.m.

True... but the one he got is capable of putting the Escort through his ceiling anyways, and the sideways lift action/table is something that even Greg Smith himself said he preferred.

Sold.

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury MegaDork
4/17/13 9:49 a.m.

ahhh...I hadnt noticed the direction of the scissor action. I can see how thats desireable. Id want more access to the underside though. Different strokes I suppose.

Either way, those are smoking deals.

Ian F
Ian F PowerDork
4/17/13 10:09 a.m.

In reply to DrBoost:

Sorry to hear.

I bought my BendPak MD-6XP from here:

http://www.asedeals.com/mid_rise_lift.html

Unfortunately, the price has gone up a few hundred since I bought mine.

Bear in mind - the "free shipping" is by truck. If you don't have a fork lift handy, there will be additional cost. I picked mine up at the distribution depot with my truck where they loaded it with a fork lift. I unloaded it at the house using an overhead chain hoist.

...and Woody - one shop did modify their scissor lift for 911 engine R&R:

http://rennsportkc.com/modifying-bendpak-md-6xp-for-a-porsche/

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury MegaDork
4/17/13 10:13 a.m.

Woody - seen the 12 gauge Garage?

if not, theres Porsche/garage/Scissor lift pRon abound...

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/17/13 10:16 a.m.

Waaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy beyond my budget.

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury MegaDork
4/17/13 10:17 a.m.
Woody wrote: *Waaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy* beyond my budget.

we can dream though...

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
4/17/13 10:27 a.m.

You could get to 90% of Jack's garage with maybe 50% of the money with a little ingenuity and lots of shopping/repurposing.

Jack did a great job with it and i'm really impressed that almost all of it was DIY.

But i'm a REAL cheap bastard and that place is so nice i'd be afraid to work on my piles of E36 M3 in there.

yamaha
yamaha UltraDork
4/17/13 11:12 a.m.

Ahhh, I see you took the blue pill.

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