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BoostedBrandon
BoostedBrandon Dork
3/9/13 4:17 p.m.

That is all.

btp76
btp76 Reader
3/9/13 4:18 p.m.

We took them apart on one of the LeMons cars and drilled out the female threads. It works great and isn't a nightmare to change pads at the track. Use this tip at your own risk...

Ranger50
Ranger50 PowerDork
3/9/13 4:22 p.m.

Once I threw away that stupid cube or flat puck special (ed) tool, screw-in calipers aren't too bad.

fanfoy
fanfoy Reader
3/9/13 4:28 p.m.

What really gets me is that you have to screw-in CW on one side and CCW on the other side. Why couldn't it be CW on both side?

ProDarwin
ProDarwin SuperDork
3/9/13 4:58 p.m.

Not sure which car you guys are talking about. Saturns have screw in rear calipers, you can grab them and turn them with needle nose pliers pretty easily. Its CW on both sides.

I don't find them that bad. Much better than having a drum e-brake setup under the rotor.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
3/9/13 5:03 p.m.
fanfoy wrote: What really gets me is that you have to screw-in CW on one side and CCW on the other side. Why couldn't it be CW on both side?

I've only encountered that once, on I think an early 80s GM. Everything else in the world goes in righty-tighty.

Except Miatas, which have a "why doesn't EVERYONE do that??" method.

If you haven't been so graced as to deal with Miata rear calipers: You remove a plug on the back of the caliper, insert an Allen socket, twist it. Done.

Will
Will Dork
3/9/13 5:07 p.m.

I can't stand them either. If there's a better tool for them than the cube, someone let me know. The location of the caliper bracket on the MR2 made it about impossible to get a ratchet or extension on the cube...I was not pleased.

patgizz
patgizz GRM+ Memberand UberDork
3/9/13 5:14 p.m.

i used to use a c clamp and channel locks on my lumina. little pressure, turn piston, little more, etc...

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
3/9/13 5:20 p.m.
Will wrote: I can't stand them either. If there's a better tool for them than the cube, someone let me know.

http://www.mactools.com/ShopOnline/Product/tabid/120/productid/318720/variantid/309479/Default.aspx

Tough enough to withstand use with an 18" breaker bar... with a 3' cheater over it... I hate rear disk brakes. Rarely do the calipers outlast the pads or rotors around here. The exception seems to be late model Volkswagens, apparently when they drained out their "electricals" stats they put it all into brakes.

mw
mw Dork
3/9/13 5:31 p.m.
Knurled wrote: Except Miatas, which have a "why doesn't EVERYONE do that??" method. If you haven't been so graced as to deal with Miata rear calipers: You remove a plug on the back of the caliper, insert an Allen socket, twist it. Done.

You must not have worked on a miata that's seen winter. For me it goes: remove plug on the back of the caliper, insert an Allen socket, twist it endlessly wondering why the piston isn't moving, swear, remove knurled bit that you turn with the Allen key, realise the end is stripped, grind the bit down so there is a new knurled section at the end, try to turn the Allen key, realise it's seized, swear, heat it too much, swear, order new calipers. Thank god everybody doesn't do it that way.

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
3/9/13 5:40 p.m.

Are we just talking about the e-brakes? Or just the pistons that turn to go in and out?

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado PowerDork
3/9/13 5:53 p.m.

I'm able to do the rears on the Corrados by using a regular piston pusher on top of a 6mm hex wrench. I have to use something over the end of the wrench to get a little leverage on it, but it works.

Don49
Don49 Reader
3/9/13 6:18 p.m.

For RX7 I made a tool by grinding down a socket and leaving 2 tabs to turn the piston. Worked like a charm!

neckromacr
neckromacr Reader
3/9/13 6:37 p.m.

I'm kind of glad that my Scirocco needs calipers. Updating them to to the MK4 aluminum ones. The MK1 "Super Size Me" Allen key in the piston was awful the one time I did pads and rotors on it.

irish44j
irish44j UltraDork
3/9/13 7:02 p.m.
mw wrote:
Knurled wrote: Except Miatas, which have a "why doesn't EVERYONE do that??" method. If you haven't been so graced as to deal with Miata rear calipers: You remove a plug on the back of the caliper, insert an Allen socket, twist it. Done.
You must not have worked on a miata that's seen winter. For me it goes: remove plug on the back of the caliper, insert an Allen socket, twist it endlessly wondering why the piston isn't moving, swear, remove knurled bit that you turn with the Allen key, realise the end is stripped, grind the bit down so there is a new knurled section at the end, try to turn the Allen key, realise it's seized, swear, heat it too much, swear, order new calipers. Thank god everybody doesn't do it that way.

I've never owned a miata, but have helped friends do multiple brake jobs on them.

^^ what you posted above is exactly how they went, EVERY time. Allen bolts on any are of the car that sees road salt or gunk should be banned.

irish44j
irish44j UltraDork
3/9/13 7:03 p.m.

btw, I've always used needlenose pliers to do twist-in calipers.

I'm pretty happy that I currently own no cars that have them, though.

Anti-stance
Anti-stance UltraDork
3/9/13 8:29 p.m.

I have done it all of the following ways:

Turning it with a flat head on one of the 4 cutouts. The fastest way.

With needle nose pliers.

The last resort if the above 2 methods fail due to a stubborn piston.

Spinout007
Spinout007 GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/9/13 9:56 p.m.

LOL I'll post up a pic of the contraption I made for my dad, works beautifully.

Iusedtobefast
Iusedtobefast New Reader
3/10/13 10:42 a.m.

In reply to Anti-stance: I had a friends Ford Flex that I had to do the Channelocks Method on. There has to be a better way

aussiesmg
aussiesmg UltimaDork
3/10/13 11:22 a.m.

and its awesome

Spinout007
Spinout007 GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/10/13 11:37 a.m.

Bah who wants to spend money on something like that?

aussiesmg
aussiesmg UltimaDork
3/10/13 11:49 a.m.

Salted Ohio roads means, "Get the right tool for the job next time dummy"

noddaz
noddaz GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
3/10/13 12:19 p.m.
aussiesmg wrote: and its awesome

For me X2 because I have the set that does both CW and CCW calipers. And since I have had the set I have never needed the one that turns the wrong way. Sometimes the proper tool is the best tool...

wbjones
wbjones UberDork
3/10/13 5:35 p.m.
aussiesmg wrote: and its awesome

this ^^^^^ $40 at HF... then you got it forever

Slippery
Slippery GRM+ Memberand New Reader
3/10/13 7:20 p.m.
mw wrote:
Knurled wrote: Except Miatas, which have a "why doesn't EVERYONE do that??" method. If you haven't been so graced as to deal with Miata rear calipers: You remove a plug on the back of the caliper, insert an Allen socket, twist it. Done.
You must not have worked on a miata that's seen winter. For me it goes: remove plug on the back of the caliper, insert an Allen socket, twist it endlessly wondering why the piston isn't moving, swear, remove knurled bit that you turn with the Allen key, realise the end is stripped, grind the bit down so there is a new knurled section at the end, try to turn the Allen key, realise it's seized, swear, heat it too much, swear, order new calipers. Thank god everybody doesn't do it that way.

^ that perfectly describes my experience with my '90 Miata ... and it was a Florida car all its life.

J

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