In reply to frenchyd :
Here I go again down another Frenchyd rabbit hole, but whatever.
In reply to Boost_Crazy :
80% of American's live in or near a major city.
Big cities concentrate poverty into certain areas. Which results in high crime.
This is absolute crap. Being poor doesn't drive you to crime. Most poor people are not criminals. The majority of victims of crime are poor. It just so happens that the lifestyles/choices/stage of life of the poor often coincide with those of criminals, so they inhabit many of the same areas. The good news is for most, being poor is a temporary state of their lives, and they are not permanent residents. You have heard the phrase "crime doesn't pay?" It's more than just a slogan, crime is not an easy way to build wealth Vs. playing within the rules, so many criminals are poor.
Arrest everyone breaking the law and you'd better hope you're never are followed by the police. Regardless of how careful you are, you'll break a law within 25 minutes or sooner.
Again with the binary choices. I challenge you to find one person- one- in this country of over 300 million- that thinks any and all crimes should result in jail sentences. Sure the average person might jaywalk, tear off their mattress tag, break the speed limit. But the average person is not going to break into a car or home, assault a random person, commit robbery, or worse.
The reason some cities may go easy on crime, is if you remove one person from the family. 50% of the guidance is gone, 50% of the income is gone, & 50% of the support is gone.
If a parent is willing to commit crimes and go to jail when they should be raising a child responsibly, there is a good bet that the guidance, income, and support wasn't happening anyway. And why would anyone blame the legal system for holding one responsible for their actions, when the individual doesn't care enough to eliminate that risk for themselves?
If you want an iron clad guarantee that the children will grow up as criminals. Put them in the foster care system.
My brother and sister went through the Forster care system until my Mom adopted them. They turned out just fine. While I agree that there is plenty of opportunity to fix the system, there is zero evidence that leaving children with a criminal parent while they continue to commit crimes would have a better outcome.
We have hard working mothers working 5-6 jobs to take care of their kids because the husband is in jail.
That sounds to me like the mother made a long list of choices that negatively impacted her life. Good for her for taking responsibility and doing what needs to be done.
Most of the time those kids have no parental supervision.
So? The answer is to let Dad commit crimes by night and coach T-ball by day? What fantasy world are you imagining?
That is reality.
Jails rarely "fix" the problem. The most that can be hoped for is the violent ones are warehoused safely away
Jails fix the problem 100% of the time. If the problem is John Doe commits crime against law abiding citizens and he goes to jail, guess what he can't do? It doesn't get any simpler than that. The problem here Frenchyd is that you and people like you care more about the consequences of John's actions than he does. So you want to remove the consequences, but the only real solution is for John to not commit the actions. You didn't help him, you just enabled him and hurt more innocent people. Even worse, you enabled would be Johns who otherwise wouldn't to follow his example if there were consequences. There is endless data to support that the softer on crime cities have been, the more crime they got. To bring this somewhat back on topic, there are organized criminals who commute to soft on crime cities. They literally carpool, so I guess it's not too bad.
