stroker
stroker UltraDork
9/14/19 9:58 a.m.

This must be F1 cars 1950 to 1960 from Goodwood.  No, it's not terribly fast but it's slow enough that you can see the driver input, the traction (gained or lost), etc.  So my question is this: If you were going to build a GRM "homage" car to these cars, what's the Easy button?  An older Sprint Car frame with Miata suspension?  What's the "Interesting" button?  Looks like 2.5 liter straight fours and V-6's.  Surely there must be a candidate engine that would come to mind...

Driven5
Driven5 UltraDork
9/14/19 10:49 a.m.

We're big fans of vintage racing too.

Easy button for that type of experience would be to buy a used Thunder Roadster.

stroker
stroker UltraDork
9/14/19 11:36 a.m.

In reply to Driven5 :

Thunder Roadster is WAY too homely for that application...  smiley

mazdeuce - Seth
mazdeuce - Seth Mod Squad
9/14/19 11:56 a.m.

Miata arms are too short to build a proper single seater, right? A set of uppers and lowers that would utilize Miata uprights and such would be interesting. Build a narrow-ish single seater frame like a Formula V. I don't know. I think the beauty in these older cars is the high slip angles that the bias ply tires run and lack of aero. Give me any car on fairly narrow bias plys and I'm going to have a good time. 

Kreb
Kreb GRM+ Memberand UberDork
9/14/19 12:03 p.m.

It's interesting that cars with vastly inadequate safety measures are allowed to be driven hard in this manner. And by interesting I mean awesome.  

Driven5
Driven5 UltraDork
9/14/19 12:10 p.m.
stroker
stroker UltraDork
9/14/19 12:23 p.m.
Driven5 said:

In reply to stroker :

Modify cosmetics as desired/necessary...

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2001-u-s-legends-inc-concord-n-c-crawdini-sports-racer-competition-car/

You have a point.

j_tso
j_tso New Reader
9/14/19 12:29 p.m.

In reply to stroker :

Perhaps a Locost with more open wheel body work?

Years ago someone did these concepts for a Caterham inspired by old Indy cars.

californiamilleghia
californiamilleghia HalfDork
9/14/19 1:22 p.m.

I love the old Indy car idea......

I wonder if anyone made kits  for them !

jstein77
jstein77 UberDork
9/14/19 1:36 p.m.

In reply to Kreb :

I was thinking the same thing; the #1 Ferrari didn't even have a roll bar.  One wrong move and a rollover would snap his neck.  Kind of scary to see them racing that hard.

sleepyhead the buffalo
sleepyhead the buffalo GRM+ Memberand Mod Squad
9/14/19 2:47 p.m.

In reply to jstein77 :

not as scary as actually seeing them crash... this was Duncan Pittaway's crash...


fortunately for all of us, he recovered and then rebuilt The Beast of Turin

AAZCD
AAZCD HalfDork
9/14/19 4:11 p.m.
mazdeuce - Seth said:

... Build a narrow-ish single seater frame like a Formula V. I don't know. I think the beauty in these older cars is the high slip angles that the bias ply tires run and lack of aero. Give me any car on fairly narrow bias plys and I'm going to have a good time. 

When I was learning the lines at Hallett for my Boxster, I came across some Formula Vee videos. Light, fast enough to get into trouble, but not 'dangerous fast', narrow tire, open wheel, pure fun.

 

DeadSkunk  (Warren)
DeadSkunk (Warren) PowerDork
9/14/19 6:58 p.m.

  http://race-car-replicas.com/rcr-steinard-formula-libre/

The hard work is already done, just need a healthy savings account.

 

grover
grover GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
9/14/19 8:14 p.m.

Really enjoyed watching that. 

stroker
stroker UltraDork
9/14/19 10:24 p.m.
DeadSkunk (Warren) said:

  http://race-car-replicas.com/rcr-steinard-formula-libre/

The hard work is already done, just need a healthy savings account.

 

The reason they built that car is basically why I started the Aluminum Monocoque thread.  But I think a 50's front engine car F1 could be re-created much more easily and for a LOT less cost. 

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