Guest Writer
Guest Writer Writer
4/7/23 8:55 a.m.

Story by Nick Pon

Lemons racing is a great provider of excuses. Want to race a car that few others do? Want to try an engine swap that should work on paper? Want to see if your unconventional idea can beat superior machines in an endurance race? 

Lemons is your playground. And if you want an excuse to do all …

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Noddaz
Noddaz GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
4/7/23 10:28 a.m.

FWD Miata?  Not sure about that.  But I do believe that for awhile it was the unofficial state car of West Virginia.  Those little buggers were EVERYWHERE.

amg_rx7 (Forum Supporter)
amg_rx7 (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
4/7/23 10:49 a.m.

FWD Miata is the 323 / Protege :)

it even has the same engine 

calteg
calteg SuperDork
4/7/23 10:59 a.m.

really missed an opportunity to call it the fastiva

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/7/23 11:06 a.m.

In reply to amg_rx7 (Forum Supporter) :

So does the Kia Sephia GS :) And the Ford Escort GT. And the Festiva has a relative, as noted in the article. If you define a car by its powerplant alone, the Pontiac Vibe is a Lotus Exige.

But it's a good title for clicks. Even if the car actually got a non-Miata motor from the car that is really best described as a front wheel drive Miata :)

I'll bet it was fun to drive, though. We had one of these behind our shop for a few years, an employee bought one to jump in the desert and then abandoned it. Would have been a good racecar donor, it got turned into washing machines or something.

Toyman!
Toyman! GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/7/23 11:44 a.m.

I grew up friends with a set of twins. No, boys. I'm not that lucky. 

In 1987-88 they both got Festivas for their 16th birthday. One in blue, one in red. We raced those little cars all over town for years (It was a small town back then). Cat and mouse, cops and robbers, call it what you want, we had a blast with those little cars.

I've never driven a Miata so I can compare, but I could see them as being similar. 

 

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/7/23 11:48 a.m.

In reply to Toyman! :

That's classic slow car fast :) I worked at a Ford dealership in the 90s as a used car jockey, and my favorite car on the lot was a teal automatic Aspire because you had to drive the wheels off it to keep up with traffic, and nobody every noticed. If we'd had two, there definitely would have been a race series.

As someone who isn't skilled enough to handle that short of a wheelbase, I opt for the afore mentioned BG chassis cars (323, escort, MX-3, protege or sephia) 

Toyman!
Toyman! GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/7/23 1:31 p.m.

In reply to Keith Tanner :

Probably less of a slow car fast and more of two equally matched cars. Of the 3 of us, I was the better driver.  devil

It didn't matter which car I was driving I could usually take them. 

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/7/23 1:36 p.m.
Captdownshift (Forum Supporter) said:

As someone who isn't skilled enough to handle that short of a wheelbase, I opt for the afore mentioned BG chassis cars (323, escort, MX-3, protege or sephia) 

The steering is so remarkably heavy, with a strong return to center, that I would impressed if you could run into short-wheelbase problems.

In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :

They're a Prius EPS box addition away from becoming an issue. 

Bizwacky
Bizwacky GRM+ Memberand New Reader
4/7/23 2:30 p.m.

We raced with those guys in Houston. That little car crushed class C, it was quite fast. If I remember right, only a few seconds off of the fastest cars out there. Really neat looking on the track too, tiny wheelbase + turbo = smiles. 

Woody (Forum Supportum)
Woody (Forum Supportum) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/7/23 2:33 p.m.
Toyman! said:

In reply to Keith Tanner :

Probably less of a slow car fast and more of two equally matched cars. Of the 3 of us, I was the better driver.  devil

It didn't matter which car I was driving I could usually take them. 

Maybe that was because they owned the cars and you didn't.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/7/23 2:57 p.m.

In reply to Woody (Forum Supportum) :

I was thinking the same. Nothin's faster than a borrowed car.

Toyman!
Toyman! GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/7/23 3:05 p.m.

In reply to Woody (Forum Supportum) :

That could also be the case. Time is prone to alter memories though so I'm sticking to my story. 

 

kb58
kb58 UltraDork
4/7/23 4:51 p.m.
Keith Tanner said:

...But it's a good title for clicks...

Sadly that's becoming the only requirement for posts and articles.

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) UberDork
4/7/23 5:53 p.m.

In reply to Guest Writer :

Does it have a 50 / 50 weight distribution and double wishbone independent suspension front and rear mr guest writer?

jimbbski
jimbbski SuperDork
4/7/23 6:37 p.m.

I worked with a Lemons team that ran one of these cars and they did the Escort GT engine swap. I rebuilt the engine on the cheap for them and while it used oil it did run strong. The team later aquired a later Miata 1.8L cylinder head that features raised intake ports. I modified the Escort intake mounting flange to allow it to bolt up the the uprated head.  With the install a a custom FI system the car made 140+ HP at the wheels all using stock or modified stock parts. 

CyberEric
CyberEric Dork
4/7/23 8:44 p.m.

Had one. Loved it! Not exactly a Miata, which I've also owned, but I loved driving that Festiva fast. It was more fun in the twistys than it had any right to be.

some
some None
11/26/23 3:54 p.m.

ZX2 is the best BG chassis car and is the FWD Miata.

Warlock
Warlock New Reader
11/26/23 4:32 p.m.
calteg said:

really missed an opportunity to call it the fastiva

A couple of friends I was working with didn't.  One bought an '88 Festiva off his brother after a collision...left the engine stock-ish and swapped in subframes from a related Kia sedan (or was it a Hyundai...the two companies shared things early-on) to get heaver springs and a bigger front swaybar.  Over the space of a few years the engine evolved a little.  Didn't really need the brakes, and the steering was so slow I can remember steering opposite to the direction of travel in slaloms to make the car move in time.  The FASTiva:

CyberEric
CyberEric SuperDork
11/26/23 9:25 p.m.

Don't mind the necro thread bump cause I love these cars so much! 

They can fit a TON inside too. I used mine like a truck. I took the back seat out (two nuts) and put down a tarp and loaded it with manure for my garden!

I thought these were the FWD Miata?

ddavidv
ddavidv UltimaDork
11/27/23 7:23 a.m.

Having driven a Festiva back in the day...nope.

Wasn't half the car of the Mk1 Fiesta.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
11/27/23 9:51 a.m.
calteg said:

really missed an opportunity to call it the fastiva

Drop in a B6T (yes, they fit) and you get a Festevil.

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