Is this HF cherry picker defective?

I have an HF cherry picker that I tried out today. Bought it a while back with a GRM/HF coupon . It was time to use it. The picker sags over a time, especially under load. Is this defective?

I used it to lift up a head+manifold off my miata. (Mistake - but subject of another thread, perhaps.) Are the rams repairable? Or time for another one?

Due to an embarrassing mistake on my part, it is time to pull the whole engine and put in another one. So I need to trust the hoist...

Make sure the cylinder is full of oil and the valve is tight.

In reply to moparman76_69: The valve used for lowering the hoist, is that the one you mean? That was tight - but I'll check it again. What do you use for the hydraulic fluid?

Jack oil

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Fluids-and-Chemicals/Hydraulic-Jack-Oil/_/N-25yu

How long does it take to sag?

In reply to logdog:

About 2-3 minutes, which is short enough time that I have to worry about it, especially if I'm alone.

Mine will bleed down overnight with an engine on it. With no load it will take a week or two to bleed down. I figured it is pretty good for a HF hoist.

My son lifted his tonka truck with it about a month ago - still up in the air.

More seriously, I've had an engine hanging for well over a week without any movement....

Even overnight under load would be good. I thought it odd that I needed to pump it a lot when lifting the head. It kept on slowly moving downward. Later, I was surprised when I heard a clank and saw the hoist hit the ground. Fortunately, I had already placed the head and manifolds on my makeshift operating table. Hopefully filling the ram with hydraulic fluid and tightening the valve will fix it.

Yeah, we've had V6/auto trans combos in the air for extended periods of time (more than a day) with our HF picker. I assume yours has no obvious leaks?

I looked for a trickle, or weeping, but didn't see anything.

Mine is an older one, and I have left weight on it for days and it doesn't move.

2-3 minutes: Defective. 2-3 hours: Borderline. 2-3 days, yeah, that's about normal. They sell just the ram for about sixty bucks or so if you didn't get the extended warranty.

if it can't hold 50 pounds of head and intake manifold, then something's definitely not right..

my 11 year old 2 ton cheapy picker will hold the front end of a car off the ground over night. i did, however, weld a bolt across the release screw as a handle to give me more leverage to tighten and loosen it by hand because it used to sag a bit over time..

try bleeding the ram- tighten the release screw with a pliers... then grab the boom and lift it all the way up thru it's travel.. i've had to do this with mine a few times when i tried to use it after it's not been used for a while.

I have the Advance Auto Parts one which I believe is the same thing painted a different color. I have also left engines hanging on it for extended periods of time with no movement.

I have a couple of HF pickers. One has been patiently hanging a 455 Buick at exactly the same height for 6 years.

Yeah, mine hoisted an MR2 chassis off the drivetrain package for several days. No sag.

Something is defective.

I have the pepboys 2 ton one, which was cheaper than the HF 1 ton one after coupon. And its definitely different. It'll hold the miata engine + tranny for a week without sagging at all. I'd try and see if you can return the HF one either to be replaced or a refund.

mine only holds for a few hours.

Can those rams be bleed? I have a Sears jack that needs to be bleed if it sits too long. It's easy enough todo a rubber plug gets pulled out, pump the handle for a minute and pop the plug back in.

If hydraulic cylinders didn't leak down overnight, this would never have happened.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_191

I just tested the jack again. It dropped about a foot in 3 hours, with only 30 lbs on it. The valve was tightened as best I could, given the crummy handle. I'll try to bleed it. Nah, first I'll check for oil. Maybe it wasn't filled to begin with.

That's pretty fast. Almost to the point of being unusable.

Usually low oil just means it won't go up all the way.

If it's leaking down, it's bad seals or a bad valve. There is an internal leak somewhere. You can probably replace the seals if you can find them. Try a hydraulic shop.

flexi wrote: I just tested the jack again. It dropped about a foot in 3 hours, with only 30 lbs on it. The valve was tightened as best I could, given the crummy handle. I'll try to bleed it. Nah, first I'll check for oil. Maybe it wasn't filled to begin with.

use a pliers to tighten the release valve...