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amg_rx7
amg_rx7 HalfDork
12/16/11 12:41 p.m.

Total waste of time on Nissan's part. Spend your time and marketing $ building better products.

DoctorBlade
DoctorBlade Dork
12/16/11 12:42 p.m.
noddaz wrote: I like that Micra R... About the Juke... While I appreciate the whole cramming go-fast goodies in an un-assuming package, I just don't get why a Juke was chosen for this transplant...

I'd bet someone told them they couldn't pull it off.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
12/16/11 1:13 p.m.
amg_rx7 wrote: Total waste of time on Nissan's part. Spend your time and marketing $ building better products.

Keeps your engineering staff excited and also it is marketing.

pete240z
pete240z SuperDork
12/16/11 1:19 p.m.

Why? To devirt our attention away from the fact that Nissan will never make a cool old Nissan 510 again. Never.

z31maniac
z31maniac SuperDork
12/16/11 1:54 p.m.
amg_rx7 wrote: Total waste of time on Nissan's part. Spend your time and marketing $ building better products.

I guess marketing doesn't include multiple message boards/web sites talking about what your engineering staff did?

Derick Freese
Derick Freese Dork
12/16/11 2:05 p.m.

If this car were to ever be sold to the public, I'd likely rob a bank to own one.

miataman86
miataman86 New Reader
12/16/11 2:07 p.m.

The Juke is just plain weird looking, no matter how you cut it. Cramming a GTR engine in it is kinda weird too. Nissan is going in a weird path.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork
12/16/11 2:10 p.m.
miataman86 wrote: The Juke is just plain weird looking, no matter how you cut it. Cramming a GTR engine in it is kinda weird too. Nissan is going in a weird path.

They are owned by Renault. Make more sense now?

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
12/16/11 2:22 p.m.
z31maniac wrote:
amg_rx7 wrote: Total waste of time on Nissan's part. Spend your time and marketing $ building better products.
I guess marketing doesn't include multiple message boards/web sites talking about what your engineering staff did?

Except Nissan didn't know about/authorize the build and now they are mad at the engineers...

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/12/08/juke-r-might-be-awesome-but-nissan-hq-aint-happy-w-video/

imirk
imirk Reader
12/16/11 2:24 p.m.
Javelin wrote:
z31maniac wrote:
amg_rx7 wrote: Total waste of time on Nissan's part. Spend your time and marketing $ building better products.
I guess marketing doesn't include multiple message boards/web sites talking about what your engineering staff did?
Except Nissan didn't know about/authorize the build and now they are mad at the engineers... http://www.autoblog.com/2011/12/08/juke-r-might-be-awesome-but-nissan-hq-aint-happy-w-video/

making it even more awesome

miataman86
miataman86 New Reader
12/16/11 2:26 p.m.
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:
miataman86 wrote: The Juke is just plain weird looking, no matter how you cut it. Cramming a GTR engine in it is kinda weird too. Nissan is going in a weird path.
They are owned by Renault. Make more sense now?

Makes perfect sense now

MG Bryan
MG Bryan HalfDork
12/16/11 2:29 p.m.
miataman86 wrote:
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:
miataman86 wrote: The Juke is just plain weird looking, no matter how you cut it. Cramming a GTR engine in it is kinda weird too. Nissan is going in a weird path.
They are owned by Renault. Make more sense now?
Makes perfect sense now

I think they actually have a corporate partnership, in which neither company owns the other. Things may have changed though.

Tom Heath
Tom Heath Web Manager
12/16/11 2:36 p.m.

A B-spec Versa might win them more fans than a Juke R.

imirk
imirk Reader
12/16/11 2:43 p.m.
MG Bryan wrote: I think they actually have a corporate partnership, in which neither company owns the other. Things may have changed though.

I thought Carlos Goshen (from Renault) was president of both companies?

MG Bryan
MG Bryan HalfDork
12/16/11 2:50 p.m.
imirk wrote:
MG Bryan wrote: I think they actually have a corporate partnership, in which neither company owns the other. Things may have changed though.
I thought Carlos Goshen (from Renault) was president of both companies?

Indeed, yet, as I understand it, neither is actually a subsidiary of the other.

Keith
Keith GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
12/16/11 3:19 p.m.
Tom Heath wrote: A B-spec Versa might win them more fans than a Juke R.

In our little world where we know the difference between B-spec and Group B, maybe. But in the fanboi world at large, where Ken Block is a superhero and nobody's ever heard of Sebastien Loeb, the Juke R is going to get a whole lot more attention. And it should. It's basically nuts, and well implemented.

miataman86
miataman86 New Reader
12/16/11 3:34 p.m.
MG Bryan wrote:
imirk wrote:
MG Bryan wrote: I think they actually have a corporate partnership, in which neither company owns the other. Things may have changed though.
I thought Carlos Goshen (from Renault) was president of both companies?
Indeed, yet, as I understand it, neither is actually a subsidiary of the other.

Doesnt mean that they cant borrow ideas from each other. Both of the good and bad kinds.

JoeyM
JoeyM SuperDork
12/16/11 3:43 p.m.
e_pie wrote: I really like the idea of the Juke, but the front end just kills it for me.

It is wrong, therefore it appeals to me.

z31maniac
z31maniac SuperDork
12/16/11 3:44 p.m.
Javelin wrote:
z31maniac wrote:
amg_rx7 wrote: Total waste of time on Nissan's part. Spend your time and marketing $ building better products.
I guess marketing doesn't include multiple message boards/web sites talking about what your engineering staff did?
Except Nissan didn't know about/authorize the build and now they are mad at the engineers... http://www.autoblog.com/2011/12/08/juke-r-might-be-awesome-but-nissan-hq-aint-happy-w-video/

I have a hard time believing that the engineers would spend tens of thousands in product, plus hundreds of man hours "secretly" building something without approval/assurance their jobs weren't on the line.

It did produce another story with Nissan in the media though.

bravenrace
bravenrace SuperDork
12/16/11 3:50 p.m.
noddaz wrote: I guess the answer is because they could... Love what looks like retro 1970s 4x4 rubber fender flares... This might have been killer in a Maxima body to make it a real 4DSC... Scott

Wow, that's about the mo fugliest vehicle I"ve ever seen.

HappyAndy
HappyAndy HalfDork
12/16/11 4:32 p.m.

I like it, not kidding, I really do. I'll take mine with a BRE paint job and badged as a Datsun please.

mndsm
mndsm SuperDork
12/16/11 4:49 p.m.

I think it's frickin great. Nissan had the balls to launch this one onto the market, and now they're stuffing it full of world-beater goodies? Call me a fan.

Jeff
Jeff Dork
12/16/11 5:00 p.m.

Is it AWD? Why do I keep thinking cage it, mount up the new Bilstein 50mm inserts (u weld on your ears), and go CARS rallying. I gues 'cause right npw I'm turning every car into a rally car in my head.

mndsm
mndsm SuperDork
12/16/11 5:01 p.m.
Jeff wrote: Is it AWD? Why do I keep thinking cage it, mount up the new Bilstein 50mm inserts (u weld on your ears), and go CARS rallying. I gues 'cause right npw I'm turning every car into a rally car in my head.

That's just right now? Christ I think I have a problem. I have yet to find a car that wouldn't be more fun sideways in the dirt.

imirk
imirk Reader
12/16/11 5:02 p.m.

Yes, and it is already caged, so just swap dampers, wheels and tires...

mndsm wrote: That's just right now? Christ I think I have a problem. I have yet to find a car that wouldn't be more fun sideways in the dirt.

Audi R18

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