Learn me First gen Accents

I have seen a bunch of these running cars for super cheap. I was thinking it would make a good rally-x/ auto-x beater. Any advice?

96DXCivic wrote: Any advice?

Don't!

Do!

I autocrossed a 98 in FSP, Gimp on here had one that he ran in STS and eventually SM with a turbo, and sold it to a guy who now runs it in FSP, want to say he won FSP in the DC SCCA region too.

Stick to the 98-99 cars, they have better and more commonly available suspension parts (same as the 00-05 cars fwiw) and are generally better built thanks to having to stand up to the 100k mile warranty. Best to start with an base model (L model) with no a/c and no p/s, stock curb weight around 2100 pounds full of gas. They are pretty fun to drive for a 92hp crap box and handle surprisingly well.

Mine, still the only car I regret selling

Gimp's former car, as the new owner has it.

Do want! Seems like the perfect (cheap) auto-x only car for someone wanting to have more fun then super serious competition!

I really think GRM should do a <$1500 auto-x project Just to see how cheap you could build a reliable auto-x car that you could drive to events and do decently well with on a local level.

I'm still convinced this car has potential to trophy, if not win, FSP unless the SCCA keeps dumping former GS-but-can't-hang-with-the-mini cars into FSP.

Here's Andy's 2010 season thread over on the lone surviving hyundai board. http://www.hyundaiaftermarket.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=18691

skierd wrote: the lone surviving hyundai board. http://www.hyundaiaftermarket.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=18691

It's one of those retarded forums you have to be a member to even look at a thread.

Isn't hyundai performance forum still around?

I never get tired of that body style, and those wheels make it that much better.

They are good looking little cars.

Well another car to keep my eye out for if the price and timing is right. Add that to Porsche 944, Saab 96, Volvo Turbo Brick, Buick Grand National, El Camino and sixth gen F-100. Ah Automotive ADD is bad. Is the Tercel or Accent a better choice?

tercel for toyotaness, accent for obscurity

Toyotaness as in random acceleration.

IIRC, there was a small run of DOHC 1.5 GT cars that made 105hp. Only available as a 2 dr hatch. Biggest problem with these cars is the same problem I have with the swift: 4x114.3 bolt pattern.

I've seen a few of those 1.5 DOHC cars as GSi's. What year was the 1.6 DOHC available, and how do they go?

2002 was teh first year of the 1.6 DOHC Alpha. That's the newer larger body style, somewhere in the neighborhood of 2300lbs for the hatch. they made about 110hp, wake up well with the typical I/H/E. The trans are the weak spots, they like to spit diff pins. Gearing is pretty short so it makes the most of it's power.

The biggest difference in the hyundai to honda comparison is the torque. The 92hp SOHC Accents made almost 100ftlbs of torque with a usable redline of about 5800-6000rpms before running out of steam. The torque comes on low, somewhere in the 2000-4000rpm range(peak being 2900). So it drives a lot different than a Civic of the same era.

They are really solid little cars. Macstrut set up with tons of wheel well room to handle good tires. The second gen (00-05) used the common 4x100 bolt pattern with the same offsets the civis used so wheels are plentiful and used similar tire sizes so there's plenty of good rubber available.

As much as I joke about hating my wife's 00 5-spd, I can't complain. It's been durable, dependable and cheap.

I bought one for my buddy to use once in a enduro that was coming up. $150 out of the wholesale lineup. 2001 i think, 4 door, 200+K, auto. It was pretty sad. I test drove it, revved it to the moon and dumped it into drive. I got maybe a half tire turn out of it. Thats it.

He gutted the hell out it and raced it around the track. 150 laps at WOT didnt faze it at all. The buick that pulled out in front of him did though. It would probably still be going if we put an oil pan on it and pulled the front end back out. However it wasnt going to win any speed contests so we crushed it.

Cliffs: Slow but reliable, Tough yet soft. Worth scrap weight.

I was in the wreckers today, and saw why they made so much torque. Not much of an intake port there. Are you sure it was 02? They had a few cars marked 00 with the 1.6 motors in them. Any demand for performance cams? The 1.6 are very similar to the Daewoo and Kia cams I've been doing

Any chance the newer axles with the more common bolt pattern retrofit to the 98-99s?

I really think GRM should do a <$1500 auto-x project Just to see how cheap you could build a reliable auto-x car that you could drive to events and do decently well with on a local level.

I think the $20XX challenges do a good job of that already.. I built my 2009 car for $1488 and on 215 width street tires i beat the AutoX time of the new Miata driven by GRM staff at that event. How about that?

Yes, its a bolt-on swap to change knuckles between the Accents (and the tiburon and elantra if you want larger rotors/calipers). You can also swap struts and springs (as a unit) between the cars too.

The 1.6L DOHC was introduced in 2001. The 1.5L DOHC was only available in the US market on the 1996-97 Accent GT, more or less hens teeth now to find one.

The 96-99 cars not only have the hard-to-find 4x114.3 bolt pattern, they also have a funky captive rotor setup where the brake rotor is bolted to the hub, meaning there are four 14mm(?) bolt heads sticking out on the face of the hub that wheels have to clear in order to fit. There are a few random wheels out there that work, but not a ton that are terribly wide. Thankfully the hub swap is really easy and relatively cheap.

regarding tire room... I ran 225/50/13 Hoosier A3SO4's on mine under stock fenders with +7mm offset 13x7 wheels, Andy is running 255/40/13 A6's on 13x9 5" backspaced diamond racing wheels and hacked up fenders.

Hyundai Performance died when the owner sold the site a few years ago after selling off his Hyundai's. The board's still around, but the guys who know anything and most of the good information is on Hyundai Aftermarket.

What kind of suspension mods are available for the Accent?

Koni yellow's are, or at least used to be available, so are KYB GR-2's if you want a cheap upgrade. There are springs from Eibach and H&R (though the H&R's have been discontinued I think) as well as from a few Australian companies. Whiteline makes a set of sway bars (rear adjustable is all that is needed). Coilover kits like ground controls are around still I think. KSport make a cheap coilover kit and a pretty nice camber plate and pillow ball upper mount kit.

Not that it'd be FSP legal, but the 2.0L DOHC "Beta" engines found in countless Elantras can slot right in to the '97-'99 Accent models with modification of only the left side mount. There's a huge aftermarket for that engine, too.

^ Not "huge" by any stretch of the imagination, but much better than the Alpha yes.

Plus, that extra 48hp and 35ft-lbs of torque are nice.

Wasn't there like one year of those things where they still used Mitsu's 4G15? That's not a great engine either but it's rather easily swapped with a mighty 4G63T.

Accents all used the Hyundai Alpha - you're probably thinking of the Excel, AKA the Mitsubishi Precis.

^ And the early SCoupes. They were by vin-code "J" and the Alphas were "N". I don't think I need to explain how they were described verbally. Then there was the tubo "J" Scoupes. What epic piles of fail that car was.