It looked sharp driving by so I stopped at the dealer to look, up close and personal. the first thing I saw was the engine is made in Mexico. The second thing was it was assembled in Canada. The third thing was the $37K+ price tag. The real turn off was the paint job that was all orange peel looking. $37K and crappy looking paint! I'll stick to my 25 year old 733. I work too hard for my money to settle for mediocre.
pigeon
Reader
2/15/09 3:53 p.m.
Every new car I've seen in the past 10 years has crappy orange peel paint. Ever since the manufacturers started going to environmentally friendly water based paint factory paint jobs have gone to crap.
Oh Noes. It was built in Canada!!! (along with all the other cars on that chassis, like the 300 and the charger. And a wack 'o Honda's, and Toyota's, and...)
Where was your 733 built?
Other than the crappy paint (agreed) what else made the car mediocre? I've driven US built cars, so surely it wasn't the fact that it wasn't US built.
I sat in a 6 speed Hemi car yesterday, and was actually quite pleasantly surprised. I'm eager to hear/see how the (Canadian built) Camaro compares. That said, it's unlikely either will end up on my driveway, but that's just a taste thing.
I love the new Challenger, only other Dodge's I like are the 300C, Magnum SRT-8 while it was around, and Viper. The rest of the cars could die and then I would really enjoy Chrysler. Jeep can stick around too.
Nashco
SuperDork
2/15/09 7:21 p.m.
I really dig the new Challenger R/T. Hemi, 6 speed manual, RWD, dead sexy, lifetime powertrain warranty, and $28k last time I checked. I liked them according to the pictures I'd seen on the internet, but with the R/T option allowing manual trans without the SRT ($$$$) package, I've really been intrigued. Unfortunately, I've sat in one (auto show) but can't find one to test drive.
Bryce
The engines produced in Saltillo, MX are stronger due to the better quality casting sand they use.
gamby
SuperDork
2/15/09 11:41 p.m.
Appears that a bunch of posts in this thread (mind included) have vanished. Odd...
Nah, you're just looking in the wrong thread!
http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/looked-at-a-new-challenger/7430/page1/
Challengers are HUGE....the number 1 reason why I will never own one.
(Crown Vic's are acceptable at 4000 pounds...Challengers are not)
I'm not going to say I'll never own one - that's a pretty strong statement for a car guy to make. I'm not buying one at $37k but if they devalue like any other modern Mopar, I'd have no problem buying a manual transmission one in 10 years for $4000.
"Philosophy" is a pretty odd reason to not buy a car. I just see if it's a good car on its own, not what I think it should be.
pigeon wrote:
Every new car I've seen in the past 10 years has crappy orange peel paint. Ever since the manufacturers started going to environmentally friendly water based paint factory paint jobs have gone to crap.
They also chip VERY easily.
Everything my family has owned that was built in Canada lasted forever.