Big european sedan/supercars:
Big european sedan/supercars:
I love old weird stuff but i think i would almost be embarassed to drive that masi. It's just horrendously ugly and doesnt seem to have any real presence from that picture. It just seems awkward.
Can i have one of these instead?
Merc no question. That is my favorite Mercedes versus my least favorite Maserati.
that maser looks like a vw quantum to me. lose.
the 450SEL 6.9 is a beast, and i would rock one in a heartbeat.
Merc, but I would love to have the drivetrain out of the maser (if it was a 5 spd version)
Dissenting opinion: The English have always made the best super-sedans (or saloons if you're so inclined).
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: Can i have one of these instead?
Are you over 6' tall?
93EXCivic wrote:92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: Can i have one of these instead?Are you over 6' tall?
Nope. 5'9"
In reply to MG Bryan:
Or XJ12
In reply to 92CelicaHalfTrac:
Then you will fit. I just don't see why you would want one.
Because they're awesome!
93EXCivic wrote: In reply to MG Bryan: Or XJ12
I love me some XJ12, and would do... things... for a decent XJ12C.
The Lagonda V8 is one of those engine notes that struck me as a child and made this dysfunction so unshakable.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: Because they're awesome!
Agreed.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: Because they're awesome!
You get all the pain of a Ferrari V12 attached to a GM autoragic transmission without the normal good looks of a normal Ferrari and from everything I have heard they don't drive that well.
93EXCivic wrote:92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: Because they're awesome!You get all the pain of a Ferrari V12 attached to a GM autoragic transmission without the normal good looks of a normal Ferrari and from everything I have heard they don't drive that well.
And? If i'm going to drive a boat, it's going to be AWESOME.
That... is AWESOME.
And if it's using a GM autotragic transmission, i bet a 5spd swap would be pretty cut and dry.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:93EXCivic wrote:And? If i'm going to drive a boat, it's going to be AWESOME. That... is AWESOME. And if it's using a GM autotragic transmission, i bet a 5spd swap would be pretty cut and dry.92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: Because they're awesome!You get all the pain of a Ferrari V12 attached to a GM autoragic transmission without the normal good looks of a normal Ferrari and from everything I have heard they don't drive that well.
They came with 5 speeds too.
MG Bryan wrote:92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:They came with 5 speeds too.93EXCivic wrote:And? If i'm going to drive a boat, it's going to be AWESOME. That... is AWESOME. And if it's using a GM autotragic transmission, i bet a 5spd swap would be pretty cut and dry.92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: Because they're awesome!You get all the pain of a Ferrari V12 attached to a GM autoragic transmission without the normal good looks of a normal Ferrari and from everything I have heard they don't drive that well.
Really hard to find in the US though IIRC.
The 6.9. I've liked 'em since I was knee-high to a grasshopper. That and I think they'd be easier to live with than the Maser.
93EXCivic wrote:MG Bryan wrote:Really hard to find in the US though IIRC.92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:They came with 5 speeds too.93EXCivic wrote:And? If i'm going to drive a boat, it's going to be AWESOME. That... is AWESOME. And if it's using a GM autotragic transmission, i bet a 5spd swap would be pretty cut and dry.92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: Because they're awesome!You get all the pain of a Ferrari V12 attached to a GM autoragic transmission without the normal good looks of a normal Ferrari and from everything I have heard they don't drive that well.
True, and i bet that's the deciding factor, because the 6.9 and the quattroporte are pretty easy to find in the US. 
93EXCivic wrote:MG Bryan wrote:Really hard to find in the US though IIRC.92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:They came with 5 speeds too.93EXCivic wrote:And? If i'm going to drive a boat, it's going to be AWESOME. That... is AWESOME. And if it's using a GM autotragic transmission, i bet a 5spd swap would be pretty cut and dry.92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: Because they're awesome!You get all the pain of a Ferrari V12 attached to a GM autoragic transmission without the normal good looks of a normal Ferrari and from everything I have heard they don't drive that well.
They're all grey imports anyway. Might as well just put in the effort/money and get the one you want.
Actually if I was buying something in that size around the same price, my vote goes Bentley Turbo R.
93EXCivic wrote: Actually if I was buying something in that size around the same price, my vote goes Bentley Turbo R.
I'd just want to turn that into a hot rod.
MG Bryan wrote:93EXCivic wrote: Actually if I was buying something in that size around the same price, my vote goes Bentley Turbo R.I'd just want to turn that into a hot rod.
I'd satin black it, pinstripes, slam it, run some uber low offset Work Meisters.
Oh, and a Home Depot boost controller.
I would happily take an old-school GM auto trans over just about any other possibility in a super-rare (at this point) old 'exotic'.
It removes a major sticking point: The possibility that if the part breaks, you are either out a E36 M3load of money while waiting a long time for one to arrive, or you're just completely berkeleyed.
If a gm auto trans breaks you fix it. EVERYBODY knows SOMEBODY that can fix a gm 3spd.
I like them both too, although I would rather own the quattroporte (I want ot get one in the next couple years actually). Most 6.9 specific parts are at least as expensive (if not a lot more) than for the quattroporte, and the 6.9 is a lot more complicated. The worst thing about the quattroporte is finding windshield glass, since they didnt make many. BTW, please no one buy a 5 speed one to part out for the drivetrain, I think they only made like 5 of them, the rest all have a mopar automatic.
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